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Rise and fall of the roman empire
- Thread starter Drendor
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the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Why not? We'd have plenty of other things to build later on and it's already a good investment. Go ahead 
Gaias
Earthman
I would surmise that is it acceptable to build the Praetor now, with our current city claims.
Ok, Hawks. someone has been fast asleep whist naming legions. I've made a list which I intend to keep updated with the legion names and designations. I found 2 legio X's, 2 legio VI's and 2 legio XVIII's. I'll post the list when I have my turn completed.
the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Well they usually were two of them in reality or even more (like I Italica and I Adiutrix) anyway. It's hard enough to keep track on a single player mode, let alone on 7 players. But I suggest no penalty for this one . So how's your war going?
. So how's your war going?
the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Drendor said:
Certainly yes!
the_Monarch said:
ok I asked because in my single mode campaign I fortified my units in the city
hills 40% river 60% fortified 25% and walls 50% = 175% and still my praesidium got slaughtered when attacked by bellators and eques. Maybe I had bad luck...
Consul Marcus Licinius Traianus (2nd. Consulship)
193BC
we wonder why it is that the outgoing Consul Civfanous finished only half the turn before retiring from office. We immediately use his remaining moves to take Aventicum with the loss of one Miles Socius. An, as yet, unnamed legio finishes the capture of the town, becoming veteran. we will rename him next turn to Legio XXXII.
We note that the legion numbering system seems to have broken down with some numbers duplicated. We will be sure to remedy this during our consulship. Our taskforce lifts the siege of Gergovia, moving in the direction of Burdigala. The King of the Gauls will have to wait for another day.
we finish the turn by moving some loose forces in the direction of Cartenna and Illyria.
192BC
War weariness is setting in.
Mercatus completed in Genua. We begin Aqueductus.
Lugdunum is retaken without loss. Legio XXV Olivera delivers the killing stroke. Extra forces move from Gergovia in direction of Burdigala. More movement towards Cartenna. Legio VI Barcariorum renamed to Legio XXXX Barcariorum. Legio VI Castor already exists. we have begun a series of reforms to have the legions numbered properly. We make contact with Britania but they have no gold and nothing else of interest.
191BC
Funditores and ballista decimate forces approaching Lugdunum. Our velites bombard the defenders of Burdigala but without real success. There are at least two Tribus Barbarus Magnus defending the town. The first forces reach Cartenna as more are sent south from Gaul.
190BC
An injured Lybian Phalanx appears northeast of Aventicum! Our peace deal with Pergamum is renewed. Gallic forces advance on Vienna and Lugdunum.
We begin construcion of two Domus Decendi in Italia and production in Roma is switched to Praetor.
We destroy most of the Gallic forces near Lugdunum and Aventicum but lose a velite to an injured tribus barbarus. The first boats arrive in Carthago Nova as many legions converge there. The road to Lugdunum is almost completed now.
189BC
War is upon us... well, another one! Carthage came to us with a flimsy offer of peace and we naturally rejected it. Carthage must fall! Immediately, they begin naval bombardment and send forces to Cartenna. What a surprise they have coming!
We slaughter the defenders and all present in Burdigala. It will be a warning to the Gauls. Now is time for peace. We get 22 gold. They will not part with any cities. They are proud people still. Legio XXI and XXVI receive special commendation for their efforts.
We set up embassy in Thevesta and the Numidians are only too happy to aid us in the struggle against Carthage. What idiots these barbarians are!
188BC
The numidian Cavalry rips the Carthaginians to shreds at the gates of Cartenna. The Punic response is muted at best. We smell death on them and blood in our nostrils. We have begun production of mercatus and Domus Decendi in many cities. A new foreign legio is rushed in Scaballis - XXXVIII. Our forces drive into the Phoenicians and on to the walls of Cirta. It seems an endless stream of reenforcements are moving towards Carthago Nova.
Near Sicilia we upgrade a Quinquereme and lose 1 corvus in the process of destroying two quinquereme summa and a cumba.
193BC
we wonder why it is that the outgoing Consul Civfanous finished only half the turn before retiring from office. We immediately use his remaining moves to take Aventicum with the loss of one Miles Socius. An, as yet, unnamed legio finishes the capture of the town, becoming veteran. we will rename him next turn to Legio XXXII.
We note that the legion numbering system seems to have broken down with some numbers duplicated. We will be sure to remedy this during our consulship. Our taskforce lifts the siege of Gergovia, moving in the direction of Burdigala. The King of the Gauls will have to wait for another day.
we finish the turn by moving some loose forces in the direction of Cartenna and Illyria.
192BC
War weariness is setting in.
Mercatus completed in Genua. We begin Aqueductus.
Lugdunum is retaken without loss. Legio XXV Olivera delivers the killing stroke. Extra forces move from Gergovia in direction of Burdigala. More movement towards Cartenna. Legio VI Barcariorum renamed to Legio XXXX Barcariorum. Legio VI Castor already exists. we have begun a series of reforms to have the legions numbered properly. We make contact with Britania but they have no gold and nothing else of interest.
191BC
Funditores and ballista decimate forces approaching Lugdunum. Our velites bombard the defenders of Burdigala but without real success. There are at least two Tribus Barbarus Magnus defending the town. The first forces reach Cartenna as more are sent south from Gaul.
190BC
An injured Lybian Phalanx appears northeast of Aventicum! Our peace deal with Pergamum is renewed. Gallic forces advance on Vienna and Lugdunum.
We begin construcion of two Domus Decendi in Italia and production in Roma is switched to Praetor.
We destroy most of the Gallic forces near Lugdunum and Aventicum but lose a velite to an injured tribus barbarus. The first boats arrive in Carthago Nova as many legions converge there. The road to Lugdunum is almost completed now.
189BC
War is upon us... well, another one! Carthage came to us with a flimsy offer of peace and we naturally rejected it. Carthage must fall! Immediately, they begin naval bombardment and send forces to Cartenna. What a surprise they have coming!
We slaughter the defenders and all present in Burdigala. It will be a warning to the Gauls. Now is time for peace. We get 22 gold. They will not part with any cities. They are proud people still. Legio XXI and XXVI receive special commendation for their efforts.
We set up embassy in Thevesta and the Numidians are only too happy to aid us in the struggle against Carthage. What idiots these barbarians are!
188BC
The numidian Cavalry rips the Carthaginians to shreds at the gates of Cartenna. The Punic response is muted at best. We smell death on them and blood in our nostrils. We have begun production of mercatus and Domus Decendi in many cities. A new foreign legio is rushed in Scaballis - XXXVIII. Our forces drive into the Phoenicians and on to the walls of Cirta. It seems an endless stream of reenforcements are moving towards Carthago Nova.
Near Sicilia we upgrade a Quinquereme and lose 1 corvus in the process of destroying two quinquereme summa and a cumba.
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the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Excellent consul Traianus! Glad to have a new Hawk decimate the Barbarian ranks! But shouldn't you spend a bit more on research?
Well done Traianus!
Good job managing to open up the african front that fast! Keep on reinforcing it.
How many troops do we have in north africa now?
How goes the job of organizing our third army? (the scipio)
Why are we researching drama? To get more scipio armies?
I now we would have education in 1 turn when i finished my consulship.
What happened after that? What was our next project? I´m not sure I understood what Apolytons next science projekt was...
I hope we are not changing projects back and forth cause I think you loose science that way
Good job managing to open up the african front that fast! Keep on reinforcing it.
How many troops do we have in north africa now?
How goes the job of organizing our third army? (the scipio)
Why are we researching drama? To get more scipio armies?
I now we would have education in 1 turn when i finished my consulship.
What happened after that? What was our next project? I´m not sure I understood what Apolytons next science projekt was...
I hope we are not changing projects back and forth cause I think you loose science that way
I don't but you are correct. You lose science that way. We are on drama now and have been since I started playing I raised the rate to 30% as we lost a couple of corvus which were support units. I'm nearly finished so full report soon. In Africa we have 2 armies, a heap of velites, some funditores and about 20 legio. No artillery yet though.
187BC
The Numidians continue to make dirt of all Carthaginians in sight.
We now have a massive force assembled in Cartenna. Our velites score a very lucky hit and destroy the walls of Cirta. Our luck appears to have run out as several legionary forces are severely wounded in the following blood bath but we escape with any losses and take the city. Thinking ahead, we have begun to amass troops at the Illyrian border.
Our naval forces lay waste to 2 quinquereme summa and another cumba. We note that we have rarely ever had such a turn of good luck with this scenario. Long may it last!
186BC
Not much to report this turn. Carthage appears to be a spent force as no new defenders have appeared to replace the dead ones. we move in the direction of Hippo Regius now. A new Scippio army is spawned.
185BC
Desperate fighting takes place near Thelepta as the Numidians cause numerous casualties, only to be ripped apart in a fiece Punic counter-attack. Our velite forces again bring down the walls at Hippo Regius. This seems too lucky. Are these walls of a weaker nature than walls elsewhere? Our forces in Africa are at this stage vast and powerful, although we are relatively weak in artillery. The luck of the velite troops is countering this, however.
We rush a foreign legio in Saguntum. Our economy has recovered somewhat to +27/turn so I will raise the science level to 30%.
184BC
Our supposed friends, the Numidians, send pirate ships to destroy our transports near Cartenna. They are unsuccessful and we gain a quinquereme. Old treacheries will be repaid.
Near Sicilia, a large punic naval force approaches, comprising 3 quinquereme summa and 3 cumba. They must be stopped!
Hippo Regius is ours! The combined attacks of our brutii army, legio XX and XXIII take the city but a unit of eques perish. Many resources are secured with the taking of this city - slaves, wheat and precious building stone. Our veltes kill a further unit of equitatus outside of Cirta.
The naval battle of Lilybeum begins and it is a bloody and costly one. We are victorius but we lose two corvus units. We do, however, gain a quinquereme and totally anihilate the Carthaginian fleet. I wonder how many sacred band are feeding the fish tonight? Admiral Paulus Metellus is to be commended.
We have moved into position at the walls of Utica. I am slightly concerned over the time it is taking to assemble ballista units as I do not think this 'Velite luck' can hold forever. The punic dogs are now cornered and they will not give up this city so easily, I think.
With so many road-building projects to be completed, we have not begun the anticipated invasion of Illyria. Many forces are now gathered and I believe it will be worth it to proceed now. The peace deal expires next turn.
183BC
The phoenician response to our destruction of their fleet is met with a roar of Roman laughter. Their navy is broken - they are a spent force! We muster a force of reserves from Sicilia and ship them to join up with the main invasion force at Utica, in the process sinking 2 quinquereme summa and a cumba. Utica itself begins to burn as the bombardment intensifies.
To alleviate the burden of our science spending, I have recruited numerous tax collectors across the southern cities.
This is where i must leave you good senators now. Consul Olivera will soon take the reins and have the honour of taking Utica and Carthage. I was so tempted to order the attack but, with so many legions exhausted from travelling, it would have been my pride before the Republic. i think you will agree that the African task force is a strong one and capable of the taking of Carthage. You will see also that our army is in place to begin the Illyric invasion. I urge you not to let that ***** Teauta free. Now is the time, senators... now is the time.
I beleieve I might but myself a nice villa in Hispania for my retirement, maybe near Valentia. The affairs of state I leave now in the hands of my son, Junius Vibius. I bid you strength and honour, good Romans.
Marcus Licinius Traianus.
The Numidians continue to make dirt of all Carthaginians in sight.
We now have a massive force assembled in Cartenna. Our velites score a very lucky hit and destroy the walls of Cirta. Our luck appears to have run out as several legionary forces are severely wounded in the following blood bath but we escape with any losses and take the city. Thinking ahead, we have begun to amass troops at the Illyrian border.
Our naval forces lay waste to 2 quinquereme summa and another cumba. We note that we have rarely ever had such a turn of good luck with this scenario. Long may it last!
186BC
Not much to report this turn. Carthage appears to be a spent force as no new defenders have appeared to replace the dead ones. we move in the direction of Hippo Regius now. A new Scippio army is spawned.
185BC
Desperate fighting takes place near Thelepta as the Numidians cause numerous casualties, only to be ripped apart in a fiece Punic counter-attack. Our velite forces again bring down the walls at Hippo Regius. This seems too lucky. Are these walls of a weaker nature than walls elsewhere? Our forces in Africa are at this stage vast and powerful, although we are relatively weak in artillery. The luck of the velite troops is countering this, however.
We rush a foreign legio in Saguntum. Our economy has recovered somewhat to +27/turn so I will raise the science level to 30%.
184BC
Our supposed friends, the Numidians, send pirate ships to destroy our transports near Cartenna. They are unsuccessful and we gain a quinquereme. Old treacheries will be repaid.
Near Sicilia, a large punic naval force approaches, comprising 3 quinquereme summa and 3 cumba. They must be stopped!
Hippo Regius is ours! The combined attacks of our brutii army, legio XX and XXIII take the city but a unit of eques perish. Many resources are secured with the taking of this city - slaves, wheat and precious building stone. Our veltes kill a further unit of equitatus outside of Cirta.
The naval battle of Lilybeum begins and it is a bloody and costly one. We are victorius but we lose two corvus units. We do, however, gain a quinquereme and totally anihilate the Carthaginian fleet. I wonder how many sacred band are feeding the fish tonight? Admiral Paulus Metellus is to be commended.
We have moved into position at the walls of Utica. I am slightly concerned over the time it is taking to assemble ballista units as I do not think this 'Velite luck' can hold forever. The punic dogs are now cornered and they will not give up this city so easily, I think.
With so many road-building projects to be completed, we have not begun the anticipated invasion of Illyria. Many forces are now gathered and I believe it will be worth it to proceed now. The peace deal expires next turn.
183BC
The phoenician response to our destruction of their fleet is met with a roar of Roman laughter. Their navy is broken - they are a spent force! We muster a force of reserves from Sicilia and ship them to join up with the main invasion force at Utica, in the process sinking 2 quinquereme summa and a cumba. Utica itself begins to burn as the bombardment intensifies.
To alleviate the burden of our science spending, I have recruited numerous tax collectors across the southern cities.
This is where i must leave you good senators now. Consul Olivera will soon take the reins and have the honour of taking Utica and Carthage. I was so tempted to order the attack but, with so many legions exhausted from travelling, it would have been my pride before the Republic. i think you will agree that the African task force is a strong one and capable of the taking of Carthage. You will see also that our army is in place to begin the Illyric invasion. I urge you not to let that ***** Teauta free. Now is the time, senators... now is the time.
I beleieve I might but myself a nice villa in Hispania for my retirement, maybe near Valentia. The affairs of state I leave now in the hands of my son, Junius Vibius. I bid you strength and honour, good Romans.
Marcus Licinius Traianus.
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the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
I suggest all techs be researched in 12 turns. Even if it cuts down our funds a bit. We'll have plenty of time later (with census, latifundia, emporium and the rest) to generate loads of income for the hard years to come.
Have any of you played the game until the Byzantine legacy before? I'm only asking because I haven't yet and I'm continuing my old game and am about to reach Constantine. But those Predators are ugly!! And the Legio Mercenaria is dead meat for them because of the low hps. And they are completelly imune to any attacks on their "ancestral forest". I really got angry when I lost a full 7 hp fortified Cohors Imperatoria on hills and limes WITH Catapult support to a Praedator. AND he lost only 3 hps! This random generator is too unpredictable.
I always win with a Velite and lose with a stronger unit, so I'm begining to wonder wether the 2 mov has any effect on overall random during combat (I know it's silly but some fights are actually ridiculous on both sides and luck seems to favor movement against all odds). Anyway, I don't feel the least secure on the limes which I hoped would happen, not even with dozens of Catapultae. Maibe the easier version is more acceptable but this hard version on 1.03 is far harder on defense than it ever was to conquer the whole thing in the first place. And my guess is one Predator every 4 turns in all cities is a bit too much. I willingly accepted the Scythian glove (they wanted 100 gold which was nothing really) just so that they lost some of these ferocious units of theirs before they got too many to kill.
And one last thing: spreading your troops on the limes is silly IMHO. It's an invitation for massacre. You should make a limes so as not to allow them to access with the 3 mov Horses but you should only garisson it in strongpoints and invite them in the less defendable areas of it where ambush is the only solution. The worst thing is the border is so wide with the Germans (I hardly fought the Scythinas at all). And one question before I finally shut up: does the limes provide def bonus for them if they occupy it even inside your borders? My guess would be yes but I had to make sure.
Have any of you played the game until the Byzantine legacy before? I'm only asking because I haven't yet and I'm continuing my old game and am about to reach Constantine. But those Predators are ugly!! And the Legio Mercenaria is dead meat for them because of the low hps. And they are completelly imune to any attacks on their "ancestral forest". I really got angry when I lost a full 7 hp fortified Cohors Imperatoria on hills and limes WITH Catapult support to a Praedator. AND he lost only 3 hps! This random generator is too unpredictable.
I always win with a Velite and lose with a stronger unit, so I'm begining to wonder wether the 2 mov has any effect on overall random during combat (I know it's silly but some fights are actually ridiculous on both sides and luck seems to favor movement against all odds). Anyway, I don't feel the least secure on the limes which I hoped would happen, not even with dozens of Catapultae. Maibe the easier version is more acceptable but this hard version on 1.03 is far harder on defense than it ever was to conquer the whole thing in the first place. And my guess is one Predator every 4 turns in all cities is a bit too much. I willingly accepted the Scythian glove (they wanted 100 gold which was nothing really) just so that they lost some of these ferocious units of theirs before they got too many to kill.
And one last thing: spreading your troops on the limes is silly IMHO. It's an invitation for massacre. You should make a limes so as not to allow them to access with the 3 mov Horses but you should only garisson it in strongpoints and invite them in the less defendable areas of it where ambush is the only solution. The worst thing is the border is so wide with the Germans (I hardly fought the Scythinas at all). And one question before I finally shut up: does the limes provide def bonus for them if they occupy it even inside your borders? My guess would be yes but I had to make sure.
the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Seems we posted in the same time. Great job consul Traianus. Not only on your luck but your logistic skills too. Bravo! So we should wait for all the consuls before we start grading?
