RNG and Crashes

[Aeson]

I've been having a lot of game stability problems in this GOTM07. It crashes roughly once every other turn. It's not a big problem, and has happened to me in a couple other games.

The main concern is the RNG. It definitely is 'random' instead of being the same each time a save game is loaded. This makes it impossible to recreate the events that happened before the crash.

I've been saving several times per turn to try and keep things as consistant as possible, but it still makes a huge difference in outcomes every once in a while. In one instance, I lost (Knight withdrew) an elite fight that crashed the game the first time, after loading the game back up I got a GL from the same fight. On average I've had worse outcomes after the crashes, but this was a big change for the positive. I could try reloading until I get the same result (or close to it) after every crash, but I doubt I could ever finish the game in time doing this.

I'm not sure how valid my game is because of this. The GL was just an example of how major some of the swings are. I had one 'dogpile' set of alliances formed against me after a crash that didn't happen the first time. This is extremely frustrating. I hope future GOTM's use the consistantly seeded version.

 

[ainwood]

I haven't had this problem - yet, but agree with what you are saying.

What was the rationale behind turning off the seed-save anyway?

 

[ainwood]

Well, not much comment on this thread!

..SO i'll make a few more.

Any idea what was causing the crash? Was it the old unhappiness one, or something else?

In terms of "validity" of the game, I suggest that you're not intentionally trying to cheat, and hence wouldn't worry about the reloads. You said that the majority of them have been for the worse, but I guess it all evens out eventually (probability-wise).

I think that the GL makes up for all the frustration of the game crashing!

 

[Matrix]

Originally posted by ainwood
What was the rationale behind turning off the seed-save anyway?

I made the savegame before v1.21 has there. Then I loaded and saved it so that it became a v1.21 savegame. So I couldn't change that. I also haven't thought of it when the GOTM was released.

About your problem Aeson: I can't help you. I'm not a computer engineer and have no idea what to do about it.

 

[ainwood]

Originally posted by Matrix

I made the savegame before v1.21 has there. Then I loaded and saved it so that it became a v1.21 savegame. So I couldn't change that. I also haven't thought of it when the GOTM was released.

Ahh! It all makes sense now!

Its interesting that an up-reved save game DOESN'T have the saved seed though.

 

[Rain]

My game hasnt crashed per se. But the graphics get wacky all the time. This doesnt affect reloads as i can save and reload at the same point, but i hope it doesnt get worse.

 

[Jove]

It's strange that everyone has different problems. I can generally play for thousands of years without any problems, but then out of the blue everything just freezes. More commonly, the soundtrack gets stuck on a 1/2-second section of the music and plays it over and over and over.....very annoying, but I can at least save and re-boot. But this is one is still only an occasional problem. Each new version has exactly the same type and frequency of troubles.