Robert the Bruce animated leaderhead

[sween32]

Alright, well here's the final 4. Time to work on the happy and mad poses.

How do they look?

 

[thomson_2001]

Those leaderheads look fantastic sween!

Originally posted by sween32
Speaking of advantage, what do you think the stats should be? I'd say the same as a Swordsman with 1 extra movement, but that's waaaaay too powerful. That would make the Mounted Warrior look like a little girl! If Persia isn't in your mod, how about 4/2/1?

I gave them a plus 1 speed agaisnt the standard swordman and made them availible after Iron Working. This IS quite a large advantage but the deserve it..the Scots were able to kill many better equipt and trained English knights as the seemed to go "beserk" when fighting (simply go crazy and chop every1 up!). Thus I gave them +1 movemet to show this. It means that horsemen cant retreat from them which again shows "beserk" behaviour in pursuing enemies.

 

[sween32]

Very well then! I thought I was going to be happy when PtW came out so I could play as the Celts, but this is even better!

I'll be back later to post Bruces defeat pic! This one is going to be cool!

 

[GhengisFarb]

Originally posted by sween32
alright... now for middle ages. this one is going to suck. do you have any armor yet, ghengis? or a chainmail texture for the mantle or hood?

EDIT: I found Chainmail on Kazaa but I don't know what it's for. It's still downloading.

Two words............

Gothic

Armor

 

[thomson_2001]

hey sween, ive just finished the run FLC and heres an in-game multi-screen thingy:-

 

[GhengisFarb]

This is great! You know we still have a couple of months before PTW comes out, it'd be kinda funny if we create more alternate civs and their UU's than Firaxis releases with PTW.

 

[History Guy]

This looks excellent. If you can get the Scottish Civ into the game without replacing any civs in the game already (or those coming in PTW), I'd really love it.

If any help is needed in Great Leaders, City names, etc., just ask me...I have a repository of Scottish history over here.

Next time...how's about the Dutch...and William the Silent?!

 

[sween32]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
This is great! You know we still have a couple of months before PTW comes out, it'd be kinda funny if we create more alternate civs and their UU's than Firaxis releases with PTW.

Yeah, that's why I want to make King David. Israel really does deserve to be in it.

Originally posted by History Guy
Next time...how's about the Dutch...and William the Silent?!

I was thinking (repeat: thinking) about making a Longshanks leaderhead to compliment Robert the Bruce. Of course, I still want to make King David and Clinton but I've been having some problems making them. Clinton still isn't cooperating after the loss of the saved file. It looks more like when he was leaving office instead of entering.

 

[Vdog]

Very nice sween just in the modern one his shoulders arnt quit wide enuff for the head nice work though

 

[sween32]

thomson: you are a genius!

History Guy: any help you could give us would be greatly appreciatted! Cities, great leaders, anything you can tell us!

Vdog: really? You should have seen them before. It looked like he had his hands in the air! The industrial ones shoulders are too wide, but I can't change that. It messes everything else up when I put his arms down. So I decided he's sitting down with his arms on the chairarms in that one

 

[sween32]

I'm still working on better armor, but here he is with chainmail.

 

[thomson_2001]

cheers sween! The latest leaderhead looks great with the chainmail. Keep up the good work! I must have spent 4 hours today just on the run FLC. At this pace I may have the unit done in a weeks time...i hope

 

[sween32]

Sweet! That unit looks so good, it's like butta'! I'm amazed at how detailed the kilt is! I'm going to have so much fun with this civ. Even more fun then Bolivia!

 

[History Guy]

Here we go...

Great Leaders:

Calgacus
Macbeth
Balliol
Wallace
Charles Stuart
Graham

Cities (25 of them)

Edinburgh
Aberdeen
Inverness
Dundee
Scone
Glasgow
Arbroath
St. Andews
Ayr
Turnberry
Kildrummy
Perth
Jedburgh
Roxburgh
Dunbar
Caerlaverock
Lochmaben
Glen Trool
Selkirk
Loudon
Falkirk
Stirling
Bannockburn
Dunfermline

 

[History Guy]

Anything else I can do for you? More cities?

 

[sween32]

Wow! I think that's enough for now! Thanks alot!

I wonder if Wallace Memorial would make a good wonder... Probably not since it's in the Modern age pic...

Here's Robert after defeat.

 

[History Guy]

Nah, I wouldn't make any Scottish Wonders, really. Just the Civ would be good enough, I think. Besides, the Wallace Memorial isn't much of a wonder.

OK. Let me know if I can do anything for you.

The defeated Robert looks pretty good, in a sick, warped sort of way.

 

[sween32]

Originally posted by History Guy
The defeated Robert looks pretty good, in a sick, warped sort of way.

He got beat up real bad. No open wounds, just his head slammed into the dirt repeadedly. That hurts more then you think!

 

[thomson_2001]

why bother making a "defeat" leaderhead....like the Scottish are even gonna be beaten! ha, The Romans had to build a wall to keep US out of thier Empire! lol.....grrrrr.

Originally posted by Sween32
I'm amazed at how detailed the kilt is!

Yeah, I have to draw each line individually. First I draw on the kilt shape and top in dark blue. Then comes the red lines, depending on the sway of the kilt.Next comes the yellow/green lines across the red.Finally comes the socks and laces.TAKES BLOODY AGES!!!But worth it in the end when I get the great responses form you guys at Civfanatics.

 

[thomson_2001]

Posted by myself earlier
I gave them a plus 1 speed agaisnt the standard swordman and made them availible after Iron Working.

I have to change the stats....
They wouldnt be around back in the early stages of the ancient age (The Picts were around then...later came the scots - still same kinda civ i spose) so this unit should become availible after researching Monarchy (Ideally would be feudalism but this is too close to Chivalry - allowing creation of knights,who have better stats). I would give the clansman a Movement of 2/Attack of 4/Defend of 2. This compares to the Knight with Move 2/Attack 4/Defend 3. So a Clansman will have -1 Defend over Knights but +1 movement over the Persian Immortal (a pretty early unit!). I will need to playtest it to check that it doesnt make the unit too strong.