Rules question

[denyd]

In GOTM 36 I've just reached 100K and have not won because I don't have double the culture of America. (I eliminated India who had been the culture leader). It looks like I'm about double America on the Culture graph.

Is it legal to load the game in Conquests and check the victory screen to see how much culture America has?

I've built 7 SS parts and will have the ship done in about 20 more turns. America has 4 parts done alread and has 4 more in process, so it's going to be close if I wait for culture (delaying the launch I might lose to America via Space Race). Normally, I'd have gone for space, I've never won a 100K game before and thought it would be a nice change of pace.

 

[ainwood]

Not really. Its giving you an advantage that people without C3C don't have.

However, you could take a screenshot, open it in paint and find out the relative widths of the graphs in pixels - that might give you an estimate of their culture.

 

[Megalou]

Good luck, denyd

 

[Xerol]

Well, you could always take out a few key american cities, damaging their CPT enough to put you over the Double line fairly quickly, and also possibly destroying or at least delaying their space race victory. You could also Investigate City on each american city and add up all the Culture and CPT values, but that'd be expensive and take a while.

 

[denyd]

I wimped out and launched. After I launched (and saved) I reloaded and played until the AI had started all 10 SS parts. For some silly reason America picked a totally corrupt ex-Spanish city on a 2 city island for the Stasis Chamber and would have needed 45 more turns to finish. However, those clever Germans picked two potent cities for their last two parts and would have completed 2 turns before I could catch America for the 100K win.

 

[dmanakho]

Is it legal to load the game in Conquests and check the victory screen to see how much culture America has?

Will Ainwood's Civ Assist give you the information needed?
if not, there we go - a suggestion to include this feature in to the new release of CivAssist

 

[denyd]

The difficulty is knowing exactly where X2 would be. It turned out America had about 70K of culture and was adding about 500cpt. I had about 138K of culture and was adding 1200cpt. Because I had to have twice the culture, even though I was adding 700cpt more each turn, I was only gaining 350gpt towards the win. I probably could have taken out Germany with by nuclear arsenal and 5 Modern Armor Armies if I'd have known they were the ones to launch instead of America. Still a little confused why America chose a 4spt city for a SS part.

 

[ainwood]

Will Ainwood's Civ Assist give you the information needed?
if not, there we go - a suggestion to include this feature in to the new release of CivAssist

Yes, but I'd have to make a rough rounding, otherwise its not apoiler-proof!

 

[denyd]

It's just one more reason to buy C3C. The victory status screen gives the total you & #1 (or #2) AI. With those numbers on back to back turns you can calculate the CPT for both and have a pretty close estimate of how long it'll take to overcome the X2 boundary. Of course the AI may add additional culture, but hopefully the player will be adding culture at an increased rate to the AI.