Ruleset clarification: Investigations, Spies and Spaceships - oh my!

[Ashburnham]

Well, that would be because this is the Espionage and spaceship thread, Provo. The settler thread can be found here if you're still confused.

 

[Provolution]

I am not confused, you are Ash, very clearly so. I just picked this up to contrast where your attention has been as a peacemonger. In fact, I started a thread on the settlers for
this purpose, and happened to recognize this and present this. So no need to discredit me here Ash, oh that is true, it is a need, I mean, you are simply wrong here.

 

[Ashburnham]

I'm not quite sure how you can make the connection between wanting to avoid wars and settler allocation. One is a Military matter, the other is a Domestic matter. I happen to be the Culture Minister, a Ministry that has nothing to do with settlers or the military. So I don't really understand your animosity towards my work in refining the Constitution.

You should be happy, Provo. You're finally getting your war. Go wild, blow stuff up, kill people. But remember that there are some people here who feel it's the duty of the government to do things other than figure out where to send Japanatican troops to die.

 

[Provolution]

What I am hitting at, is the strategy behind the intention to avoid wars. I go for a Diplowin myself, maybe a slightly more brutal one, but a realist one. The pure isolationism stance is too simplistic to secure any victory, but the histographic one.

We only go for profits, not relations in trade
we never commit to any international partner before it is too late
Rejection of proposals is the prevaling thought, not coming up with alternatives
We never consider balance of power as an issue, the isolationists said, it is all their business, stay out of it
How can we stay out of business when we sit on most luxes, techs, and gold`?

Finally, I see no international strategy at all, beyond our defensible city doctrines and some max profit for trade. Poor Nobody gets all of his proposals shot down by the isolationists, and when we sign a deal, it is a last minute attempt to get a war we gets
anyways. Iroq, Zulu and now Russia sets a pattern, last minute patching up of relations, after centuries of strong arm diplomacy.

 

[Nobody]

Iroq, Zulu and now Russia sets a pattern, last minute patching up of relations, after centuries of strong arm diplomacy.

actually if I (or anyone else) had remebered the troops up north, my last minute patch would of worked.

 

[blackheart]

What are you whining about Provo? Why do we have such a large army? Why do we have so many cities? Why do we have so much gold? Why are we making so much gold?

Trading with countries isn't enough? Trading improves our relations.
We aren't isolationist. Isolationists wouldn't trade with anyone. Isolationists wouldn't colonize near other people. Isolationists wouldn't conquer.

What would a realist Diplo win be? We could just give everyone a large sum of techs near election time and grab our victory.