Sacred Forest Term 1 -- All things have a begining...

[Ehecatl Atzin]

Greetings all and welcome to the thread of our capital city, Sacred Forest, where the winds find shelter from the cold. This is the governor's thread, as as such discussion concerning the city is accepted and encouraged. What should be our line of construction after our settler? more warriors until a settler can be built again? perhaps a temple to get a cultural edge and get a spot on the "best cities list"? a baracks? discuss please. Sadly I won't be home for the weekend, hopefully, the settler won't be built until I return.

Behold! a picture of our fair city, Shen Ling.

Our current shield production is 3 p/turn.
Food is 4 p/turn
Commerce is 4 p/turn, all of them going to science output.

Our current population is one, but this will change next turn chat, so the stats will also have to be put up to date.

EA

 

[Vander]

I know that in some of the other threads, there is alot of discussion of war. Not only that, but we are a war society. So I think that the barracks will pay off for us in the long run.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Yes, since will probably turn out to be a war game, build barracks between our first and second settler.

 

[naervod]

I think defense is the best offense and that if any enemy striking force gets past the front line, we should be able to defend ourselves, so we should probably throw in a warrior/spearmen after our second settler. Also, temples are a nice touch.

Proposed Queue"
Settler
Barracks
Warrior/Spearman
Settler
Temple

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Well, I suggest that we optimise the queues so we finish the settlers the turn the city gets to size three. whatever is built between the settlers I am not worried about, as long as we dont exceed the point where we hace to start paying for our military.

I suggest a barracks after the settler.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

I also suggest to ,after the settler is completed ,construct either a barracks or millitary.If possible ,ill like a spearman/phallanx first ,maybe two ,rather than a barracks imediatly.Temple's are good ,but we don't need them that fast ,we better prioritize our millitary.Also because we'll need protection for our expanding civ and new build city's ,thus building spearmen early is my preffered option.

 

[Plux]

I suppose this thread is deciding in build Q as opposed to all the ad hoc discussion going on in the turn threads? I will just repost my views on the SF build Q here:

When we are size 2 we will build a settler in 6 turns (at 5 sh/turn) so we only can/need to switch to settler when we are 4 turns at size 2 (at the earliest). That makes 4 turns = 2 warriors, plus the warrior we are building now, giving us 4 warriors in total. However, after finishing this warrior we will have 2 turns at size one that we will produce 6 shields, that we have to use for something (barracks or warrior).

I'd say build 5 warriors now (requiring an upkeep of 1 gp for the fifth warrior), then switch to settler, and build a barracks afterwards. First explore and expand, then think of a strong defense imho.

Furthermore I would like to mention the fact that we have lots of forest that we can clear (industrious workers!) for a rush of city improvements like granary of temples. SF will be a real production powerhouse! (wonder city?)

 

[Plexus]

I really belive that waiting to build the settler, while building 5 warriors is a mistake... I already think that the German team has two cities.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

I think it's way to early for any team to have a second city yet.You just havn't got tile's that give that much food that one would have been at size 3 already.

Anyway ,i still say we should build the setller as soon as possible.How many unit's we should still build before we can start settler build due to sufficiant size in x turn's is not of that many imortance to me ,as long as we get that settler on the right moment.

Though i think ,studying the screenshot ,that we first have to build unit's anyway.How much i can't say ,i cant load the save due to not having ptw. .Ill leave the calculation's to someone else.

 

[Plux]

Originally posted by Plexus
I really belive that waiting to build the settler, while building 5 warriors is a mistake... I already think that the German team has two cities.

If they have two cities, that can only have happened if they found one in a hut. It's too early to have built settler already.

I too want to build a settler asap, but that is only possible when we are size three. In the mean time other stuff needs to be built, for instance warriors (my suggestion). And if my calculations are right, we will have to waste two turns of production if we want to time the settler exactly when we hit size three. I then prefer to wait a turn extra with the settler, and build another warrior first and not wasting any shields.

 

[Plexus]

but are those extra warriors neccessary, we could be using the economical means for other things.

 

[Plux]

Originally posted by Plexus
but are those extra warriors neccessary, we could be using the economical means for other things.

The only improvements we can build are walls and barracks, and since it's unlikely that we will be at war soon, I prefer warriors for early exploration.

 

[WildFire]

I prefer scouts for early exploration but....

Stop the settler and build some more warriors, seems like the obvious thing to do really. Gotta explore.

 

[Cyc]

Personally, I would rather lose the two turns of production and have the Settler ready. Of course I don't know how long it takes to build a warrior, and no one will say. To me having the Settler ASAP is more important than having another explorer down on the tundra. I also believe the Settler should go to site "C".

 

[Chieftess]

I'd rather have an extra warrior in those 2 turns.

 

[Ehecatl Atzin]

I have to agree with Chieftess here, the more units we have to explore and defend the better, if this was a normal human vs AI game, I'd go for the settler, but it's not, so...

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[Goonie]

How did you copyright that Screnny when I took it? Is it the one from my turn 10 post !

 

[Ehecatl Atzin]

@Goonie -- stick with me, you might learn a thing or two

EA

 

[Ehecatl Atzin]

It at seems to point to a barracks as our next big thing to build before we have any more warriors or our prized settler (hmmm...I hope that goody hut has one) that part of the queue is mostly done already: barracks, settler, warrior then? and after that? continue building warriors until another settler can be made, or perhaps trow in a temple to increase our culture. What do you guys think?

EA

 

[Goonie]

We should send Oct.'s Guard into Sacred Forest when we pop that hut.