I guess it is high time I regularly play at immortal level. I am not too fond of it since I do not get to build my fill of Wonders. Oh well. So I opened the immortal zip file, closed my eyes, moved the curser around and double clicked. I missed all the targets. But on the second try the game started and I was Periclise. I renamed him to Htaclise . SIP Spoiler : Settled in place, started a worker and Agri followed by AH and on to BW. I will habitually settle toward AI and when I saw Jo, I knew I needed to be fast at settling toward him. Expansion Spoiler : At size 3 started a settler and when the Horses were shown to east with sheep and floodplains nearby, my second city site was selected. The Second city had another marble in its BFC and as of 500 AD it is still not developed. After Founding that city and growing to size 4 I started another settler. City 3 calimed, a corn, elephant, oasis site to north east to block off Jo. Then settled a city toward Hammy claiming an oasis, cow, horses (which is yet to be developed) and sevral hills and rive tiles. I need a worker or two but claiming land has always been my style of game. Next city claimed the gold and shared corn with the capital. And the last city was a captured riverfront barb city that had 2 dyes, and 2 other plantation resources. By now it was about 500BC and my economy was in a deep dark hole. But Cheap library scientists were saving the day. Also I was getting annoyed at Ai demands and 2 were from Jo. Just because his ranking was above me, this is no reason to treat me thusly. War Spoiler : So I finally started to build units. I want some of Jo's cities and technologies butI think there is a chance for a dogpile. Jo was number 2 I am number 3 and many wan-a-bee's can be a problem. mainly Rags. So my chariots went on a recon mission to Portugal and realized what I expected to be true. His cities are defended by few units. Dowed him with 2 stacks and took 2 cities next turn. FYI each stack was only 7 strong so I knew this was to be a cripling blow not a kill. 2 turn later I took another of Jo's cities northwest of my Elephant city. And then all hell broke loose. HC, Rags and Pete dog piled on me. Oh poor me. Killed off the small stack of 8 units HC sent and I sent 3 unit to pillage. Jo wanted peace and I gave for some gold and techs. HC did not want to loose his improvements, so he gave 200+ gold for peace. Peter was crying like a baby and I had no choice but to give him peace for like all the gold and the techs he had....12g and no techs. Rag--you scum Spoiler : Rags was a different story all togather. his stack was about 20 strong and eventually captured my second undeveloped horse city. 3 turns later we took it back. I lost a library and a granary in the city and my 3rd GS. Grrr. I sent 3 unit to pillage him but he was sending another stack of 20 to say hello to me. So I gave him Aesthetics for peace. He will know me again. Note to self....stop denying Immortal AI of all their demands and requests. Current State of State Spoiler : Itis just past 500AD. Number 2 in power and only behind Hammy. Hammy with his few cities in running away with techs. Rags is in a 3 way war and Izzy is holding her own against him. I am looking at Jo at the moment. I have 12 cities and 5 workers. Dohp. Capital built TGLib and NE. Ivory city has the HE and just starting to build elephants. I wonder what I am planing. Jo and Pete does not have LB's yet and I do not have CS yet. Not my normal game.