scenario editor?????

[Inventor_of_Mac]

hello,brother mac-users,
every1 is talking about a civ3 scenario editor...everywhere...AND I DONT HAVE ONE !!!
am i supposed to get one when i buy the game? or do i download one,where then?

 

[MacBaldrick]

Sorry to disappoint you but as usual Mac users get the short straw.

An editor is in final beta (or at some such pre-release status) which we will have to buy - It came free with the PC version. When ? we are all crossing our fingers and waiting, soon please.

We are also waiting for a Mac version of Play the World. When this will arrives is anyones guess. If you check some of the threads you will see there are concerns that the new editor will only work with Civ3 and not PtW. Two steps forwards one step back.

 

[Inventor_of_Mac]

hey its not fair!!!how come pc users got it 4 freee????!!!!

 

[dojoboy]

Nope, its a free download. It'll most likely be available at Infogrames' support page and CFC, Apolyton, etc.

 

[Badger]

Originally posted by MacBaldrick
An editor is in final beta (or at some such pre-release status) which we will have to buy - It came free with the PC version.

Woah there...was I asleep or something? I don't recall anybody saying we'd have to buy the editor. If we would have to buy it, Macsoft would have an incentive to get the thing out the door already...and they sure don't seem too concerned about losing any sales on this thing...

 

[Inventor_of_Mac]

hey its not fair!!!how come pc users got it 4 freee????!!!!

 

[dojoboy]

The Editor is FREE!

(actually cost included in the purchase price of Mac Civ3 - no other additional expenses)

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by MacBaldrick
It came free with the PC version.

Actually, PC users had to wait 6 - 8 months for their editor after the release of Civ3. We're waiting 12 months, maybe 13.

 

[Beamup]

Originally posted by dojoboy
Actually, PC users had to wait 6 - 8 months for their editor after the release of Civ3. We're waiting 12 months, maybe 13.

Um, no. On the Windows side there was an editor with the initial release. The current version of the editor took 8 months before it was released - you know, the one where there is still absolutely no indication of whether we'll get it ever, and the one that adds many, many new capabilities.

And wow, there are a lot of multiple postings in this thread...

 

[Inventor_of_Mac]

 

[MacBaldrick]

Sorry for the bum steer there. Grovel grovel.

Must have been a PtW thread that was talking about prices. No wonder we are waiting forever.

 

[ejday]

Okay, folks, this was three weeks ago.

Originally posted by Brad Oliver on Dec 31, 2002 12:57 AM, while responding to Willy Wonka in Major Fallout's "So... when's the Editor due out!!!" thread.
It's in "final candidate" now. I can see about getting the website updated, but given that most everyone is in flux with New Years and MacWorld next week, I'm not sure that it would mean anything.

This was the "You guys sure are a pessimistic bunch" post.

Okay, call me crazy, but if Brad hands over an editor in final candidate, talks about it after doing so, and three weeks after talking about we still don't have an editor... I think we have reason to be both pessimistic and irritated with MacSoft's business model.

If MacSoft sits on their hands much longer, I fear they may go blind.

 

[Beamup]

It does seem odd, yes. Although we can't necessarily say it's MacSoft's fault - the holdup might be with Firaxis or somebody. Just don't pin blame on anyone while we don't know what's holding things up.
I'm still holding out hope of a release this week, though. Even tomorrow. Here's a question - which will come out first, the editor or MoOIII?

 

[Daelda]

MOOIII will be out first.

 

[ejday]

Originally posted by Beamup
I'm still holding out hope of a release this week, though. Even tomorrow.

You're an optimist. Tomorrow? I wish "tomorrow." Okay, maybe "tomorrow"... but probably not.

Some word from MacSoft why they're sitting on this would be nice. Bad things happen to stock prices when investors are left to wonder...

Here's a question - which will come out first, the editor or MoOIII?

Impossible to tell. When "Final Candidate" was first posted, I would've said the editor (easily). Now, though, I'm thinking MoOIV will be released first.

 

[Brad Oliver]

Originally posted by ejday
Some word from MacSoft why they're sitting on this would be nice.

MacSoft got back from MacWorld last week, and I did get a bug report Friday that may be holding it up (arrow keys don't work for navigating around the map). There was also a report of an unreproducible crash, so I suspect they're wanting to bang on it some more to see if the crash was a fluke or not. That's my guess at least.

 

[DiamondzAndGunz]

and I did get a bug report Friday that may be holding it up

that's not good..

But, sadly, I guess I wouldn't really be able to live without scrolling with the arrow keys... clicking that mouse does get boring after a while... Hopefully, it's only a matter of days (weeks [months]) now.... right? RIGHT?! :suicide: I think I'll sleep now.

 

[Beamup]

Oh no! Arrow keys don't navigate around the map! The horror!

In all seriousness, though, this really seems like a minor issue to me - more of a convenience than a necessary feature. I hope release wouldn't be delayed just for that (though crashes are another thing altogether). And while I'm hoping, I hope it wouldn't be too hard to implement - naively, since it's functionally similar to using the scroll bars, it seems like it would be relatively simple to just utilize some of the same code. Of course, not having seen said code or ever programmed anything similar, I'm just talking out of my alternative orifice here.

 

[Brad Oliver]

Originally posted by Beamup
And while I'm hoping, I hope it wouldn't be too hard to implement - naively, since it's functionally similar to using the scroll bars, it seems like it would be relatively simple to just utilize some of the same code.

I sent a fixed build out last night, so it wasn't a big deal. In this case, there is no shared code with the scrollbars (I thought like you did) as Cocoa handles the scrollbars automagically and programmers don't really have access to simulating that with the keyboard.

 

[Grey Randall]

Thanks for the info, Brad.

I think when I get my mac back up and running, Ill just *have* to "give" Philadelphia, Oakland, and San Diego to an enemy, so I can send ships from Tampa over to bombard, pillage and raze!

(Yeah, cheap ploy to celebrate my Buc's *finally* going to the Super Bowl!)