Scenario preview: Europe 1556

Kubz

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The Duke of Parma, Alessandro Farnese prepares to load his army of Tercios onto the Galleons of the Spanish Armada, and conquer England.
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I'm about a week or two away from completion. The scenario revolves around the reigns of King Philip II of Spain and Queen Elizabeth I of England and the various events that occured during their reigns- The Spanish Armada, The Dutch Revolt, French Wars of Religion, the Battle of Lepanto, Scandinavian Seven Years' War, Ivan the terrible's wars against Poland and Sweden.
There are 15 civs in it.
1.Spain-King Philip II
2.England-Queen Elizabeth I
3.France-King Henry III
4.Netherlands-Prince William (the Silent)
5.Ottoman Empire-Sultan Selim II
6.Russia-Czar Ivan IV (the Terrible)
7.Austria-Emperor Maximilian II
8.Italy-Pope Pius V
9.Switzerland-Rector Theodore Beza
10.Germany (Protestants)-Elector Augustus
11.Portugal-King Sebastian I
12.Denmark-King Frederick II
13.Sweden-King John III
14.Poland-King Stephen Báthory
15.Scotland-Queen Mary I
 
Looks interesting. :)
I think that the Danes should have the city of Lund (in present day southern Sweden).
Personally I'd switch a few colours; I'd have the Danes either red or white, and the Swedes either blue or yellow. The French could have the royal white, though blue is at least miles better than pink. ;)
It's hard to see, is Visby (at Gotland island) danish or Swedish?
 
Honestly, the map look a little small :/ But that isn't your fault. Someone needs to make like.. a 320x320 europe map.
 
If you make a 320*320 map you'll loose half of your "customers" as the scenario would be too slow on older computers. I think that size is good.
 
If I used a larger map that would just make the game slower and more tedious. I used the map from the Napoleon conquest and it works just fine.
mrtn, Denmark's culture extends to where Lund and Malmö would be (hard to see on the mini-map) so I found it unecessary to give the Danes a city there. Visby is Danish at this point.
 
Well, my point was (partially, at least...) that Lund was a very important Danish city... Much more important than those Norwegian cities you've included. The loss of Scania was as catastrophic for the Danes as the loss of Finland was for Sweden...
 
Right now I'm thinking of appropriate Wonders of the World for my scenario.
Right now I have-

Shakespeare's Theater
Sistine Chapel
Luther's 95 thesis (Bach's Cahedral)
Tycho Brahe's Observatory (Copernicus')
Gallileo's Workshop (Leonardo's)
The Holy Roman Empire (Sun Tzu)
Wealth of the New World (Adam Smith's Trading co. I might need to think of a better name. It represents the vast inflow of Silver and Gold from the New World into Spain)
Sir Francis Drake's Voyage (Magellan)
The Great Armada (Produces a Galleon in the Coastal city this is built every 5 turns.)
Hanseatic League (Collosus)
 
looks intersting. I think however that chopping up Italy and Germany may be a better Idea. If you could divide Italy by the city states and Germany by religions, that would be very cool :)
 
Well originally I had divided up Italy between the Papal States, Venice, Genoa, and Florence, but I like them combined more. As for Germany, the Austrians essentially represent the Catholic Germans and the Germans are the Protestants. All their cities are in what were Protestant principalities, granted their culture extends into Catholic areas.
 
Here are all the Unique Units-
Spain-Tercio
Portugal-Carrack
Scotland-Highlander
Switzerland-Swiss Pikeman (Switzerland has exclusive access to the resource needed to build the Swiss Pikeman, and therefore can sell the resource like selling mercenaries to the other players)
Poland-Hussar, Cossack
Germany-Reiter, Landsknecht
Austria-Landsknecht
Ottoman Empire-Janissary, Sipahi, Corsair
 
Right now I'm trying to come up with a custom tech tree. I'm trying to come up with enough technologies to make it interesting to research since there are a couple research wonders (Brahe's Observatory, Galileo's Workshop).

So far all the techs that will be in are-
anatomy*
medicine
optics* (telescope, microscope)
astronomy
physics
economics
counter-reformation*
military tradition
joint-stock company*
scientific method
piracy*
free artistry

I need more ideas :confused:
 
Yeah I suppose that could work, I have to research more on Naval Warfare of this period. This was before the use of Frigates, but the Naval tactics advance could lead to one kind of sea superiority ship, that the English could use. Does anyone know of the kind of small ships the English used against the Spanish Armada? I know they used fireships which could be an interesting unit.
 
Technologies and/or Wonders etc. --

1. Advanced Metallurgy -- Agricola's "De re metallica" (actually a study of minerology) published 1556

2. Currency Reform (Gresham's Law, England, 1558)

3. Scientific Society (first one founded Naples 1560)

4. Advanced Map-making (George Mercator draws the first accurate map of Lorraine, 1563; his world projection dates from 1568)

5. Nostradamus' Predicitions (ca. 1566)

6. First Modern Atlas -- "Theatrum Orbis Terrarum" -- Antwerp, 1570

7. Magnetic Compass (ca. 1581)

8. Algebra (using letters for algebraic quantities) 1591

9. Trigonometry (ca. 1596)

10. East India Company founded 1600 (Dutch East India Co. founded 1602)

-- How's that for a start? :)

-Oz
 
The Dutch are in fact Orange, but it does look quite yellow in the screenshot. I suppose I can make them oranger ;). I picked Purple for Spain because that is the royal color of the Spanish Kings. If your basing the colors on the flags, well the Portuguese flag was different then than it is today.

Thanks Oz, those are good ideas :goodjob: .
 
I wasn't precise enough ;-)

The "yellow" you used for the Netherlands should be used for the Spanish. And there is a "real" orange which you haven't used yet.

I think the spanish flag used in the 16th century already contained yellow and red stripes. No?

Personally I'm annoyed sometimes with the given colours, so I change them in the scenario before playing them. But that's just me.
 
I did make the Dutch more orange. The Spanish flag was different in the 16th century then it is today, but I'm not totally sure what the national flag was then. I suppose it would be the Burgundy Cross.
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After researching naval warfare of the late 16th, early 17th century I have decided to give the English a new unit, the Race-Built-Galleon with the advance of Naval Tactics. I'm not sure if the time frame of my scenario would allow me to have the Ship-of-the-Line, available with the advance of Naval Ordinance. The earliest ship that could be considered a Ship-of-the-Line was the H.M.S. Prince Royal of 1610. The Ship-of-the-Line really wasn't widely used until the mid 17th century. I guess I'll put it in for fun.

Also I have decided to add a late Infantry unit. The timeframe of my scenario is well before the invention of the flintlock and the advent of the Fusilier. But there has to be an improved firearms tech that I could use to build an Infantry unit that would appear late in the scenario.
 
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