SCENARIO PREVIEW: The Three Kingdoms: Extended Edition

ive downloaded the scenario (but not the art yet 19mb on dialup takes a while) and taken a look in the editor. its nice to see heroes have different unit graphics but i must say ma chao as heavy pikeman graphic? also ma chao and zhang fei's stats should be the same. plus in order of the best fighters of ROTK:
-Lu Bu
-Zhang Fei/Ma Chao
-Guan Yu
-Zhao Yun

but you've given Zhao Yun 20/20, and that's a bit high (in my opinion). also you might change Zhao Yun's graphic to something with a spear (but sword is good also as Zhao Yun did take Cao Cao's best sword)
in the final release you might also add new wonders such as Morning Sun Hall, Bronze Bird Tower and others found in the book if you sift through near the end.
i can only comment on these so far as i haven't finished downloading the art yet.
 
Hey Sarevok :)

Been on the dl a bit lately but I noticed you've jumped headfirst into another big project. I thought your other SanGuo scenarios were good, so I hope this one is really good. ;) Anyway, Im downloading it now, 19 megs is gigantic for a dialup... so Ill probably pause it until tonight and just leave my computer on tonight to let it download. Ill check it out and give you my opinion.

BTW, I hope this game wont have the massive wait time like the Old Empires has. I tried out Roco's "quicker one" and thought that I was in for a 2-3 minute wait time. WRONG. I was on turn 2-3, decided that I was going to my next turn... waiting... 5 minutes... Ok, Ill jump in the shower... 15 minute shower, get out... nothing. Wait 5 more minutes. More Diplomacy declaring war crap... another 5 minutes. All in all, it was a 30 minute wait just for my turn... I would've expected a 30 minute wait to load the darn thing up... not wait for my turn. It was madness... I quit that promising scenario, immediately. :)
 
GeneralZhouYu said:
Hey Sarevok :)

Been on the dl a bit lately but I noticed you've jumped headfirst into another big project. I thought your other SanGuo scenarios were good, so I hope this one is really good. ;) Anyway, Im downloading it now, 19 megs is gigantic for a dialup... so Ill probably pause it until tonight and just leave my computer on tonight to let it download. Ill check it out and give you my opinion.

BTW, I hope this game wont have the massive wait time like the Old Empires has. I tried out Roco's "quicker one" and thought that I was in for a 2-3 minute wait time. WRONG. I was on turn 2-3, decided that I was going to my next turn... waiting... 5 minutes... Ok, Ill jump in the shower... 15 minute shower, get out... nothing. Wait 5 more minutes. More Diplomacy declaring war crap... another 5 minutes. All in all, it was a 30 minute wait just for my turn... I would've expected a 30 minute wait to load the darn thing up... not wait for my turn. It was madness... I quit that promising scenario, immediately. :)
oh dont worry at all, this is actually The Rise of Wei with significant additions to it. Zhou Yu, this is that "extra extended edition" I was talking about in that thread for so long. No, load time is no problem at all.
 
citizen001 said:
asian unit graphics:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=81018

these units might help
Take a look at the scenario, they are already in it.

BTW, There is a deception on the "units_32" pictures. None of them were changed in the scenario graphics. The only way you will be able to see the new graphics is to go into the scenario itself.
 
citizen001 said:
ive downloaded the scenario (but not the art yet 19mb on dialup takes a while) and taken a look in the editor. its nice to see heroes have different unit graphics but i must say ma chao as heavy pikeman graphic? also ma chao and zhang fei's stats should be the same. plus in order of the best fighters of ROTK:
-Lu Bu
-Zhang Fei/Ma Chao
-Guan Yu
-Zhao Yun

but you've given Zhao Yun 20/20, and that's a bit high (in my opinion). also you might change Zhao Yun's graphic to something with a spear (but sword is good also as Zhao Yun did take Cao Cao's best sword)
in the final release you might also add new wonders such as Morning Sun Hall, Bronze Bird Tower and others found in the book if you sift through near the end.
i can only comment on these so far as i haven't finished downloading the art yet.
I have actually played a game myself, this is just adding to a very long list of changes. I personally would like to hear from you in order, what each officers stats should be that are currently custom offciers in the game.

Lu Bu
Guan Yu
Zhang Fei
Xu Chu
Dian Wei
Zhao Yun
Zhou Tai
Ma Chao
 
Sarevok said:
Take a look at the scenario, they are already in it.

BTW, There is a deception on the "units_32" pictures. None of them were changed in the scenario graphics. The only way you will be able to see the new graphics is to go into the scenario itself.

We're already using them? Doesn't look like it, but maybe I just forget what they look like.
 
Gogf said:
We're already using them? Doesn't look like it, but maybe I just forget what they look like.

The Sampan is in it I know, the other 3 are not because they do not fit in, though the Hun unit is getting serious consideration.
 
Sarevok said:
Lu Bu
Guan Yu
Zhang Fei
Xu Chu
Dian Wei
Zhao Yun
Zhou Tai
Ma Chao

remember in the book how ma chao dueled zhang fei to a draw? and why is guan yu better than zhang fei? and don't you think zhou tai is ranked too high? (when liu bei invaded wu after the assassination of zhang fei, zhou tai didn't do very much and his brother was even killed by one of the shu officers). everything else is ok.

i gather this ranking is based on ability in combat.
 
citizen001 said:
what about the samurai spearman (in the ptw extras folder) as alternate warrior graphics?

Because the warrior is a 11.11.2, and I think it is hard for most civ player to actually attack with a unit that was a spear or pike.
 
citizen001 said:
remember in the book how ma chao dueled zhang fei to a draw? and why is guan yu better than zhang fei? and don't you think zhou tai is ranked too high? (when liu bei invaded wu after the assassination of zhang fei, zhou tai didn't do very much and his brother was even killed by one of the shu officers). everything else is ok.

i gather this ranking is based on ability in combat.
that is an officer list, now what Id want for rankings.
 
citizen001 said:
what about the samurai spearman (in the ptw extras folder) as alternate warrior graphics?
i didnt use it becasue it looks way too Japanese. Even the samurai units dont look it quite as much.
 
No i didnt find it to easy, theres nothing you can do when the AI uses the brain of a 2 year old.

Example: I am 1 turn away from the AI capital, the AI then sends his entire army to his other city wich i have surounded by another army, the AI army will use 5-6 turns to get there, i capture both cities and suddenly his large army just disapears. Lucky me tough :)
 
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