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This thread has been opened because the former thread on this forum got mildly :) sidetracked.

SuperBeaverInc has provided the default science leaders:


Rome
Leonardo da Vinci
Galileo Galilei
Enrico Fermi
Guglieilmo Marconi
Lucretius

Egypt
Ptolemy
Conon of Samos
Diophantus
Hypatia
Pappus

Greece
Aristotle
Plato
Socrates
Archimedes
Euclid
Eratosthenes
Pythagorus
Heron of Alexandria
Thales of Miletus

Babylon
Hammurabi
Domninus of Larissa
Jabir Ibn Haiyan
Ibn Khaldun
Ibn Rushd
AL-Mawardi

Germany
Copernicus
Gutenberg
Max Planck
Heinrich Hertz
Johannes Kepler
Hans Geiger
Fritz Haber
Wilhelm Röntgen
Gerardus Mercator
Albertus Magnus

Russia
Ivan Pavlov
Korolev
Dmitri Mendeléev
Holonyak
Theremin

China
Confucius
Zhang Heng
Tsu Ch'ung Chi
Jia Xian

America
Albert Einstein
Thomas Edison
Benjamin Franklin
Nicola Tesla
Richard Feynman
George W. Carver
Buckminster Fuller

Japan
Aida Yasuki
Kiyosi Ito
Nagaoka Hantaro

France
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Blaise Pascal
Rene Descartes

India
Brahmagupta
Nilakantha
Kamalakara
Paramesvara
Madhava
Panini

Persia
Al-Khwarizmi
Omar Khayyam
AL-Farghani
Al-Mahani
Nasir al-Tusi
Kushyar ibn Labban

Aztecs
Chichatoyotl
Textalatzin
Quakeotzlitopotec

Zululand
Senzangakhona
Dingiswayo
Malandela

Iroquois
Guyasuta
Old Smoke
Three Feathers

England
Isaac Newton
Charles Darwin
Francis Bacon
Charles Babbage
Alan Turing

Mongols
Ulan Bator
Minzu Wenyibao
Kumujil-yin Qoro

Spain
Juan de Ortega
Gherard of Cremona
Joao Baptista Lavanha

Scandianavia
Anders Angstrom
Niels Bohr
Tycho Brahe
Niels Stensen
Hans Oersted

Ottomans
Zakariya al-Razi
Thabit Ibn Qurra
Callippus of Cyzicus
Sporus of Nicaea
Dionysodorus
Menaechmus

Celts
Maredudd ap Owain
Grufudd ap Llewelyn
Rhodri Mawr

Arabia
Nicomachus of Gerasa
Ali Abbas
Al-Kindi

Carthage
Bomilcar
Tanit
Eshmuniaton

Korea
Seok Tong-sik
Taro Aso Han
Roh Moo Sun

Sumeria
Ali Ibn Rabban
AL-Battani
Abul Wafa
Ibn al-Baitar
Eutocius of Ascalon

Hittites
Hipparchus
Eudoxus of Cnidus
Heraclides of Pontus
Posidonius

Netherlands
Christiaan Huygens
Anton Brugmmans
Jan Swammerdam
Frans van Shooten

Portugal
Anthony of Padua
Pedro Nunez
Enricho Swarez

Byzantines
Geminus
Empedocles of Acragas
Apollonius of Tyana
Callinicus of Heliopolis
Ctesibius

Incas
Sinchi Roca
Manco Capac
Maita Capac

Mayans
Ah Cacao
Smoke-Monkey
Stormy Sky


Many modders really, really need better lists, say 6-10 each.













Can you provide a better list?
 
NEEDED CIVS:



Egypt
Babylon
Russia
China
Japan
India
Persia
Aztecs
Zululand
Mongols
Spain
Scandianavia
Ottomans
Arabia
Carthage
Korea
Sumeria
Hittites
Portugal
Incas
Mayans



NOT NEEDED:

America
Byzantines
Celts
England
France
Germany
Greece
Iroquois
Netherlands
Rome


 
From the last thread , of Nahuixtelotzin, we only got lists for 6 civilizations:


Celts - Calgacus

Laidcenn Mac Baith
Cenn Faelad
Banban of Kildare
St Adamnan
Johannes Scottus Eriugena
Sedulius Scottus
Giraldus Cambrensis
Johannes Duns Scotus


France - Marla Singer

René Descartes
Blaise Pascal
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Laurent Antoine Lavoisier
Antoine Becquerel
George Charpak
Pierre-Simon Laplace
André Marie Ampère
François Arago
Louis Lumière
Joseph-Louis Lagrange


IHolland- Ribannah


Christiaan Huygens
Anton Brugmans
Jan Swammerdam
Frans van Schooten
Luitzen Brouwer
Willem Kolff
Hans Lippershey
Jan Tinbergen

Iroquois- Ribannah

Ely S. Parker
Oronhyatekha
Oren Lyons
Taiaiake Alfred
Clifton A. Poodry


Rome - Calgacus


Lucretius
Strabo
Sosigenes
Scribonius Largus
Pliny the Elder
Soranus
Galen
Claudius Ptolemaeus
Sextus Empiricus
Iamblichus



Rome=Italy - Rufus T.Firefly


Plinius
Cicero
Galenus
Leonardo da Vinci
Galileo Galilei
Giordano Bruno
Macchiavelli
Guglielmo Marconi
Antonio Meucci
Galileo Ferraris
Archimedes
Leonardo Fibonacci
Alessandro Volta
Amedeo Avogadro
Giuseppe Ravizza
Giulio Natta
Dante Alighieri
Alessandro Manzoni
Cesare Beccaria
S. Augustin
S Francesco
S. Benedetto
Plautus
 
Rome
(not to be confused with italy ;))

-Lucius Brutus (for those of you who dont know, he founded the republic)
-Cato the Elder
-Tiberius Gracchus
-Cicero
-Pliny
-Ovid
-Virgil
-Galenus

*as you will note, most of them are either statesmen, or men of culture, this is needed, as Rome, while having some signicant disocveries, did not record who made them, or at least, those names are not readilly availble to me
 
seems Calgacus beat to the post, though it seems we can a good deal to each others lists...
 
England

Francis Bacon
Isaac Newton
Robert Boyle
John Locke
Michael Faraday
Charles Darwin
John Maynard Keynes
Alan Turing
Paul Adrien Maurice Dirac
Francis Crick
Stephan Hawking
 
Germany

Johann Gutenberg
Gottfred Wilhelm Leibnitz
Karl Marx
Immanuel Kant
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Sigmund Freud
Albert Einstein
Max Planck
Johannes Kepler
Werner Heisenberg
Erwin Schrödinger
Wernher von Braun
 
Byzantium

Kallinikos
Ioannes Mauropous
Theodore of Studion
Michael Kerularios
Michael Psellos
Anna Comnena
Niketas Choniates
Gregorios Palamas
Plethon
Georgios Scholarios
 
USA

Thomas Edison
Benjamin Franklin
Richard Feynman
George W. Carver
Buckminster Fuller
Josiah Willard Gibbs
Joseph Henry
Arthur Wightman
James Watson
Robert Oppenheimer
 
should Cyril, or whoever developed the Cyrillic alpha bet be on there as well?

EDIT- in reference to the Byzantine list
 
The Greeks

Thales
Pythagoras of Samos
Herodotus
Democritus
Zeno of Elea
Hippocrates of Cos
Plato
Aristotle
Eratosthenes of Cyrene
Euclid of Alexandria
Arsistarchus Of Samos
Archimedes
 
Originally posted by Xen
should Cyril, or whoever developed the Cyrillic alpha bet be on there as well?

EDIT- in reference to the Byzantine list
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Doesn't really matter. I guess, although Cyril didn't develop the Cyrllic alphabet - that came later.
 
James Clerk Maxwell should be in there, but since he's Scottish I suppose he doesn't really fit in for the English. He unified the theories of electromagnetism.

Ernest Rutherford (New Zealand - discovered the nucleus in my University depeartment in Manchester, England)

Schrodinger (Austria - Quantum Mechanics)

J. Robert Oppenheimer (America - Father of the Bomb)

James Chadwick (England - discovered the neutron)

Werner Heisenburg (Germany - In charge of the German WWII atom bomb project, discovered the uncertainty principle)

Wolfgang Pauli (Austria - discovered the neutrino, created the exclusion principle, theory of relativity)
 
Oppenheimer is on American list I made; Heisenburg and Schrodinger are already on the German list I made :D

Feel free to compose lists. Suggestions are fine, but they aren't much help. :( :goodjob:
 
China
Confucius
Zhang Heng
Tsu Ch'ung Chi
Jia Xian
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Confucius is more about philosophy, and Tsu Ch'ung Chi is miliraty theorist.

Who is Zhang Heng/Jia Xian? :-)

Ancient China is famous for the Four Great Inventions: I just found this useful link: http://www.wcsu.k12.vt.us/~newfane/4inventions/

Cai Lun invented papermaking.
Bi Sheng invented printing.
Zeng Gongliang recorded(invented?) gunpower
Shen Kuo recorded compass

Here are a couple of others:

Li Shizhen is a good one (pharmacologist).
Lu Ban is also famous for his invention and woodworks.
 
philosphy, at least in the west is a contributer to science- i would think it is similer in the east

besides, sci leaders are a great way to get a civs cultureal heros into the game as well
 
Germany

Johann Gutenberg
Gottfred Wilhelm Leibnitz
Karl Marx
Immanuel Kant
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Sigmund Freud
Albert Einstein
Max Planck
Johannes Kepler
Werner Heisenberg
Erwin Schrödinger
Wernher von Braun
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Sorry, this list is definetely inferior to the generic one. Almost exclusively Philosphers (which aren't included in any list by default), and all those mid-20th century physicists/ A-bomb/ rocketry scientists who for any reason dominate the discussion here...


Compare that to the generic list:

Copernicus - I agree, since the discussion about his nationality willnever end, he shouldn't be on top of the list.


Gutenberg - No discussion needed

Max Planck - Same

Heinrich Hertz - Hello? Why skiping him?

Johannes Kepler - No discussion needed

Hans Geiger - You don't like Chemistry, right?

Fritz Haber - This man invented the fertilizer, and you skip him?

Wilhelm Röntgen - Err...again???

Gerardus Mercator - Oh, I see, no 20th century rocketry...

Albertus Magnus - Now deleting him is the most idiotic idea of all: That man is the Patron of the Natural Scientists! :wallbash:


I do however agree that Leibniz should be in, and if we agree on Philosophers, Kant and Marx should make it. But Schroedinger and Freud will always be Austrians (have a look at their list ;) ), Einstein a 'World Citizen', and von Braun should be American (though I don't think he should be included at all).


In general: Many lists deserve to be improved (with the German one quite good already), but please stop from that focusing on Rocketry/ Atomic Theory during the 20th century.
Start including Medics (or related researcher like Röntgen), Biologists, and Scientists from before 1850.
 
Add Anthonie van Leeuwenhoek to the Dutch list; he invented the microscope.
 
Originally posted by Doc Tsiolkovski


Sorry, this list is definetely inferior to the generic one. Almost exclusively Philosphers (which aren't included in any list by default), and all those mid-20th century physicists/ A-bomb/ rocketry scientists who for any reason dominate the discussion here...
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Errr...are you an idiot...looks at the lists again please, and read a basic history of philosophy. :p

Ers and hellos mean nothing....outside American high schools. So, that means you may actually have to say something next time :rolleyes:

Youre entitled to your opinion Doc, but dont try to pretend this amounts to anything more :lol:
 
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