Scientists given cloning go-ahead

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Scientists given cloning go-ahead
British scientists have been given permission to perform therapeutic cloning using human embryos for the first time.

The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority granted the licence to experts at the University of Newcastle.

They are investigating new treatments for conditions including diabetes, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.

The controversial decision could open a new era of research by scientists looking for remedies for diseases.

This is an important area of research and a responsible use of technology
Suzi Leather, Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority

The research will take place at the International Centre for Life in Newcastle, involving experts from the Institute of Human Genetics at Newcastle University, and the Newcastle Fertility Centre.

Scientists there believe this is the first time such a licence has been granted in Europe, as well as in the UK.

But they warn it will be at least five years - if not many more - before patients could receive stem cell treatments based on their work.

Therapeutic cloning is carried out for medical reasons. It is the same technique that was used to create Dolly the cloned sheep.

Even though the science is similar, the technique is different to reproductive cloning, which aims to create a human being.

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Therapeutic cloning has been legal in Britain since 2002.

The cloning technique, known as cell nuclear replacement (CNR) involves removing the nucleus of a human egg cell and replacing it with the nucleus from a human body cell, such as a skin cell.

The egg is then artificially stimulated. This causes the egg to divide and behave in a similar way to a standard embryo fertilised by sperm.

No human life should be sacrificed for the benefit of anybody else, no matter how dramatic the promises are
Josephine Quintavalle, Comment On Reproductive Ethics
The eggs used are left over from IVF treatment. They are donated by couples, and would otherwise have been destroyed.

Professor Alison Murdoch of the Newcastle NHS Fertility Centre, who is leading the research said the potential of their research was "immensely exciting".

She added: "Since we submitted our application we have had overwhelming support from senior scientists and clinicians from all over the world and many letters from patients who may benefit from the research.

"This research should give valuable insight into the development of many diseases."

But Professor Murdoch said: "Realistically, we have at least five years of further laboratory-based work to do before we move to clinical trials but this could be reduced if we receive additional funding which would allow us to increase the size of our team."

'Balance'

Suzi Leather, chair of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, said an initial one year research licence had been granted after "careful consideration of all the scientific, ethical, legal and medical aspects of the project".

She said: "This is an important area of research and a responsible use of technology.

"The HFEA is there to make sure any research involving human embryos is scrutinised and properly regulated."

A spokeswoman for the British Medical Association said: "We support strong regulation so that therapeutic cloning to extract embryonic stem cells for life-saving treatment, which most of the public supports, can go ahead while human reproductive cloning, which most of the public opposes, cannot."

But Professor Jack Scarisbrick of the pro-life charity Life, called the HFEA's decision "deplorable".

"We are all in favour of conquering terrible diseases. But we do not need cloning to do so. Stem cells taken from adults are likely to be just as good, if not better."

He added: "Of course we are told that this therapeutic cloning, as it is called, will open the way to curing Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and other degenerative diseases.

"But we have heard those promises so often before - and anyway, the end does not justify the means. This is a fundamental principle."

Josephine Quintavalle, of the pro-life group Comment On Reproductive Ethics, told the BBC: "It is very worrying indeed. "We have decisions of this magnitude being taken by an unelected government quango."

She added: "No human life should be sacrificed for the benefit of anybody else, no matter how dramatic the promises are.

Cloning human embryos for therapeutic purposes was made legal by an amendment to the Human Embryology Act in January 2001.

But cloning humans for reproductive purposes remains illegal and is punishable by a 10-year prison sentence and unlimited fines.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/3554474.stm

Published: 2004/08/11 11:59:51 GMT

© BBC MMIV


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Very good news, indeed. Finally, we'll be able to cure many diseases one day, or don't even care about diseases(just replace what is needed, taking cells from our bodies).
 
I hope we'll be able to grow body parts one day. Can be a bit tricky to attach them though (the "wiring").

I don't mind reproductive cloning either, the day it will work. Can't really see the point though.
 
I'm highly defiant of these practices.
It's an extremely slippery slopes. And as time pass, security and ethical checking become softer.

It may have its uses, but I'm not comfortable with this.
 
I don't think "defiant" is the word you want. "Skeptical", perhaps?

I'm fine with it, basically. Like pretty much all technologies, the moral question isn't the techniques as such, but the applications. And if we banned all research with potentially harmful or immoral applications, well, we'd say alot of money by axing the research budget.
 
GO Cloning!!!
i've figured it out, i only need to command 93 of my younger self in order to take over the world.
so i hope they get to real cloning before i'm too old to care about ruling the world.

on a serious note though. i'm definetly for this type of thing. i dont see the "evil" downside to cloning at all. i dont realy see the diference between a mad scientist cloning a bunch of testtube babies, and the same mad scientists having a bunch of babies the natural way.
 
Personaly, I am against Human Cloning when it is used for Reproductive pourpouses. IMO, the punishment for human cloning for reproduction should be 30 years inprisenment.
 
I personally find it disgusting that the American government has allowed itself to fall so far behind in such fields.

That's why Bush has to go.
 
Yes, they already have thousands of red army clone troopers who know nothing but the love of the communist state and Mao Zedong.

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Have you ever wondered why they all look the same? :mischief:
 
The Last Conformist said:
Who's infront of you? China?

Anyone who has legalized it, basically. I think we banned it because a large number of people in this country, Bush included, think that even a package of cell(s) as small as a single cell egg is a "living being".
 
Riesstiu IV said:
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Have you ever wondered why they all look the same? :mischief:

They don't... The second one going left to right has a distinctly confused look on his face. :p
 
SeleucusNicator said:
I personally find it disgusting that the American government has allowed itself to fall so far behind in such fields.

That's why Bush has to go.
There is no law stopping scientists from cloning so AFAIK they can clone all they want. As I point out there are profit and non-profit organizations at full speed researching this. P.S. I know they tried to clone humans a few years ago and fail. Recently there was more focus into trying to clone again. So is it now possible to clone humans? or is the bugs still being work out?

The only real issue in USA should tax payers have to pay to some lobbist when we already got billions already in this research without having to fool with the government. It's just about pork here.
 
They're using unfertilized eggs (have to, actually) so the moral implications are more or less identical to sperm banks. What's the big deal?
 
SeleucusNicator said:
I personally find it disgusting that the American government has allowed itself to fall so far behind in such fields.

That's why Bush has to go.
What's Bush has to do with the research on that field? Did he cut all fundings?

Personally, I don't see a danger with human cloning. Most people haven't understand that, it won't be the same person(although it will look like the real person): the brain would have gather different experiences, small details that can be crucial in the development of the person's character, not to mention that it'll live in a different age.
 
Riesstiu IV said:
Yes, they already have thousands of red army clone troopers who know nothing but the love of the communist state and Mao Zedong.

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Have you ever wondered why they all look the same? :mischief:
What's all this fuss about? Cloning is an age-old invention, don't you people know history! :mischief:
 

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I support anything that can cure major problems like alzheimers, one of my family members suffers from it and it's terrible it would be immmoral NOT to go ahead and clone. And crystal is that Emperor Qin's tarra cotta army?
 
Stem cell research might be able to do some good on diseases but not alsimiers. I have seen things that say that it does not help cure the disease.
 
Well even if it still can help others still makes it worth it.
 
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