SammyKhalifa
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Thanks! I'm having a hard time deciding whether that project will end up being worth the effort when you consider it'll have to be off of a and ED
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Tomice
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More like a desperate last line of defense before flipping. Or as last tipping on the scales offensively
Aussie_Lurker
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Wow, Great Library has become much more worth pursuing. Nice buff!
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True love come from discount spear fishing rather than just pikes.
blackbutterfly
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Most things got buffed except Carthage which got nerfed. TBH on larger maps the extra trade routes Carthage gave was a bit crazy...crazy fun OP 
They nerfed trade routes across the board. -60% gold buy is nothing to sneeze at though.Most things got buffed except Carthage which got nerfed. TBH on larger maps the extra trade routes Carthage gave was a bit crazy...crazy fun OP
Lily_Lancer
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It seems that if the project is on you can gain loyalty bonus despite of how much production you have.
So it's good for a city to build an entertainment complex, only chop buildings or so, just focus on food or other yields in normal times, make it generate very low production like 1 prod per turn, and set this project active.
I wonder what Brazil Carnival will be. Can Brazil do this loyalty project?
shaglio
The Prince of Dorkness
I hadn't paid attention to the wording before now. At "0.5 Loyalty per Citizen per turn + 20 Loyalty when finished" it seems the worse your production is, the more Loyalty you'll gain since the project will be "active" longer.
kryat
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That depends on whether you choose to run the project multiple times in the same turn span.
Josephias
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Yep: easy math: City 1 gets double production than City 2 (project cost increase discarded just to round numbers)
City 1: <------> City (2)
run project (4 turns): <------> run project (8 turns)
1: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
2: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
3: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
4: +20.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
re-run project (4 turns) <-------> (continue project)
5: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
6: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
7: +0.5 loyalty <------> +0.5 loyalty
8: +20.5 loyalty <------> +20.5 loyalty
Total city 1: 44 loyalty
Total city 2: 24 loyalty
shaglio
The Prince of Dorkness
But in a size 20 city, you get:
City 1: <------> City (2)
run project (4 turns): <------> run project (8 turns)
1: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
2: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
3: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
4: +30 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
re-run project (4 turns) <-------> (continue project)
5: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
6: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
7: +10 loyalty <------> +10 loyalty
8: +30 loyalty <------> +30 loyalty
Total city 1: 120 loyalty
Total city 2: 100 loyalty
So, while you are correct, it's not as big a difference. The bigger the city, the less the difference becomes.
Josephias
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Yep, I missed the "per citizen". In any case, the final boost becomes irrelevant (unless for city flipping interest*), and the main idea is to keep a constant loyalty source to keep the balance (but at the cost of not producing anything), by reruning the project.
*For city flipping it can help. As I commented in the Mapuche thread, when you are slowly building a rebellion in an enemy city, having an immediate boost can help you gain some vital turns, because the extra loyalty you produce is uncountered.
(i.e. you are slowly rebelling a city by having it a balance of -2 per turn, thanks to the project. To reach 20 to 0, it would be 10 turns normally, but only 5 turns if you trigger an extra -10** on the fifth turn).
** boost at 5-tiles spacing.
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Did anybody see Yi Sun-Sin in the livestreams or YouTube videos? He is a very powerful (practically OP) Great Admiral and I was wondering if maybe Magellan replaced him.
Don't believe so. I also figured I could keep posting info here for people who for whatever reason are unable to play R&F tomorrow. If anyone is wondering about anything just post questions here and I'll look them up as soon as I get in the game.
stealth_nsk
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That's great idea!
