Sea ressources out of range

[Sandro]

Hi, did a quick search but could not find any posts on this topic (though I think I remember seeing it mentioned before). I am starting a new game as Lanun and am a bit annoyed that the sea ressources typically are located out of range (more than two tiles) of the coast. Is this a problem related to the Kuriotates sprawling trait and the new Slum wonder and does anyone know a workaround (to lower the frequency of inaccessible sea ressources)?

Cheers,
Sandro

 

[Deon]

Which map script do you use? I don't see it often playing Pangea.py with the tectonic.py (smart map script) added.

 

[sylvain5477]

more than 2 tiles is not "out of range" for culture, only not usable directly by the city.

 

[xienwolf]

Since coastal tiles will only happen within 2 squares of land, and the resources are set to spawn in coastal tiles, it only happens when 2 landmasses are within 4 (or maybe 5) tiles of each other, or you have a large harbor/cove/lake in a single landmass.

Hence, it is rare, but can happen on almost any mapscript with large bodies of water. Not an issue connected to FfH really. (but hey, I could be wrong, is there land on the other side of it?)

 

[BeefontheBone]

They did indeed start spawning farther out when the sprawling trait was added way back. I'm not sure if that's carried over to BtS though - I don't recall seeing any more than 2 tiles from any land tile since the switch.

 

[jrandrew]

Actually I think there is one resource type that spawns only in ocean -- whales, right? But maybe I am confused I am not even sure if they appear in FfH or just vanilla Civ?

And I think the original poster was probably referring to fish, clams, and pearls anyway.

 

[BeefontheBone]

Whales (and oil in vanilla) do show up in ocean. But yeah, I suspect he was talking about the coastal ones

 

[Aradiel]

Would it be possible to script that lanun citys use sea resources like they are within reach ?

 

[reverend oats]

Fish, clams, and crabs can appear in ocean normally, in range of being worked by cities. And coast only appears (in normal scripts) next to land. I have noticed the problem too, but never in normal civ, only FFH.

 

[Arwon]

I've seen pearls a long way out to sea, but that's it really.

 

[reveler]

I always use my first two turns to explore for a better spot. That is what the awesome sight range is for and three turns don't mean anything on emperor.

So just pick a nicer spot.

 

[Ecofarm]

I often have resources 2 tiles diagonal from the nearest land, or accessible only via an island 1 tile from the capital (it was not visible when the capital was created). It happens plenty in bts as well. If possible, moving to a non-forest hill can help avoid this (in ffh, with 4move super-sentry settlers).

I wish you could build a special shrine on these resources. They mock you all game: "you didn't get all the resources you were supposed to ". Sometimes I try to think of them as preserves, but that doesn't really work. I'm pretty much bitter all game

 

[Quetz]

I always go around in worldbuilder in a new game, dropping fish all over the place on coasts and inland lakes.. I like big coastal cities and it seems more realistic.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

does smart map workwith .30?

 

[SwordofStriker]

Since coastal tiles will only happen within 2 squares of land, and the resources are set to spawn in coastal tiles, it only happens when 2 landmasses are within 4 (or maybe 5) tiles of each other, or you have a large harbor/cove/lake in a single landmass.

Hence, it is rare, but can happen on almost any mapscript with large bodies of water. Not an issue connected to FfH really. (but hey, I could be wrong, is there land on the other side of it?)

I tend to play Big and Small maps for the most part and I see sea resources 3 tiles out pretty frequently. Though there usually is land on the other side, it's also 3 tiles from that. A lot of times, it's next to or very near ice. I wonder if ice is being counted as land, and therefore when the resources are generated, it thinks it's placing the resource next to land.