SGOTM 08 - Fifth Element

Mesix · Jan 14, 2009

Running priest specialist in Delhi with Shshi will not lower production by much. Each priest gives us some production and gold.

BLubmuz · Jan 14, 2009

berserks01 said:
The "I will try the 100%" GMen is to see if we can generate another GPerson from Delhi after the one that pops in 2 turns by turning on a heck of a lot of specialists.

Impossible: Eng is now in the same turns as Dehli, and next Gman will come from there.
But not in 7 turns, so just run the specialists to take the best from our few turns, forget more Gmen.

Mesix said:
Running priest specialist in Delhi with Shshi will not lower production by much. Each priest gives us some production and gold.

True, but it's impossible build an Hospital and the RC before Evora with 2 turns of Mining.

Then we need to switch back to SP, to max science and go back to FM right after Rocketry.

If you missed it i carefully studied every aspect of this final, and we can't miss a beat: UN vote will come on turn 264, and we'll win on turn 265.
By then we must have all the wonders built or captured.

It's possible, but without mistakes.

Delay the Diplo vote would mean 5 more turns, far worse than miss a wonder.
Have Pericles' capitulation in less is just a dream.

WastinTime · Jan 14, 2009

Are you sure the vote won't get cancelled because we have too much population? I'm talking about after we capitulate Rome of course. I never tested whether vassals count against the self-vote rule. I guess if the vote fails, we just continue to conquer Perc as planned and win ASAP.

BLubmuz · Jan 14, 2009

Sure, we'll never arrive @ 66.7% of the population. (we're slightly over 50% now) Good thig have draft a bit and have let Vienne to Charlie.
We have our vassals' vote guaranteed, but this doesn't count.

berserks01 · Jan 14, 2009

WastinTime said:
Are you sure the vote won't get cancelled because we have too much population? I'm talking about after we capitulate Rome of course. I never tested whether vassals count against the self-vote rule. I guess if the vote fails, we just continue to conquer Perc as planned and win ASAP.

Vassals won't count against the self-vote rule, only your own vote. So we're safe there.

Sweetacshon · Jan 14, 2009

BLubmuz said:
I smell a medal
...
BTW i've well examined the graphs, and the smell of medal is stronger.

Do I detect white line fever, Blubmuz?? I've heard these sorts of comments before.

What do I get for taking a day off? 3 pages of reading and a sore head. The PPP sounds good to me... at least I can't see any more issues right now. Come on GP!!!

MacBalt · Jan 14, 2009

Excellent discussion... I'm with Sweeta on the "sore head" comment, but really great MM from BLub, WT, & Berserks. Eight turns eh? Well... here's hoping! :thumbsup:

Berserks... I can't tell if they would help much, but there are two Galleons and a Frigate in Navajo that could be in Florence in two turns. They could get six units (or our GP???) next to Rhodes in one turn (or even to a direct assault) instead of the three turns it would take from that tile you mentioned 2E1N of Florence. If Rhodes turns out to be lightly defended that could end up being a critical speed difference. Just food for thought though... Your plan sounds well considered either way. Good Luck! :ninja:

Mesix · Jan 15, 2009

Good luck on the TS. In 8 turns we go into the history books!

BLubmuz · Jan 15, 2009

Balthalion said:
Excellent discussion... I'm with Sweeta on the "sore head" comment, but really great MM from BLub, WT, & Berserks. Eight turns eh? Well... here's hoping!
Thanks!
Berserks... I can't tell if they would help much, but there are two Galleons and a Frigate in Navajo that could be in Florence in two turns. They could get six units (or our GP???) next to Rhodes in one turn (or even to a direct assault) instead of the three turns it would take from that tile you mentioned 2E1N of Florence. If Rhodes turns out to be lightly defended that could end up being a critical speed difference. Just food for thought though... Your plan sounds well considered either way. Good Luck!

That's what i meant when i posted "sail to Rhodes".

We can also move one of the loaded galleons from Dehli (after unloaded there) to help with the ferry.

berserks01 · Jan 15, 2009

Ran into a little bit of RL problem so I can't play tonite. Will play the TS tomorrow night instead. Sorry for the delay guys.

Mesix · Jan 16, 2009

1,500 posts!!!

I noticed that I was at 1,499 while posting in the FfH and decided to come here to celebrate my new milestone.

MacBalt · Jan 16, 2009

Cheers, Mesix! (& congrats!)

:beer:

BLubmuz · Jan 16, 2009

Mesix said:
1,500 posts!!!

Congrats!!!
Let's celebrate 2.000 in next SG (possibly owning a medal fron this one).

berserks01 · Jan 16, 2009

Made all the changes mentioned starving some cities a little and netted > +600 gpt. Then switched to FM, it went down to +66 gpt

Had to add 3 more priests to get a GPerson in 2 turns, but the Wall Street still finish in 1 turns, so that's what I did.
Found Sid Sushi in Delhi

Spoiler :

Found Jewels in Marbles

Spoiler :

Found Creative Constructions in Engineering

Mining inc in Evora

Spoiler :

Cereal Meals in Evora

Spoiler :

Traded 7gpt from HRE for 1 Hit Musical
Traded 2gpt from Gandhi for silk

Rhodes are very lightly defended, we won't have any problem taking it.

Spoiler :

Combustion in -> Artillery next (2 turns).

Spoiler :

We're the Secretary General

Spoiler :

You can only rebase 4 airships per vassal city, so I put 4 in Florence and 4 in Augsburg. Both are within range of Rhodes.

Whittled Cumae down to its last defender, unfortunately we just don't have enough to take it this turn.

Spoiler :

Cumae fell the following turn with no loss.

Spoiler :

We got a GA from Delhi :rolleyes:

Suggest bombing him in one of the cities likely to revolt or in revolt.

Captured Rome losing a canon.

Spoiler :

Switch back to State Property and Free Speech. Income went up to +758 gpt.

Artillery in -> Rocketry next (2 turns).

Spoiler :

An event at Rome

Spoiler :

Rocketry in 1 turn.
We're gaining at +934 gpt.
Our stack needs another turn to get to Antium and a turn after that to take it.
Our Rhodes forces are in place.
The stack in Ravenna should be enough to take Thebes.

THE SAVE

berserks01 · Jan 16, 2009

Session Log:

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berserks01 · Jan 16, 2009

Session Log #2:

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berserks01 · Jan 16, 2009

Auto Log:

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greatbeyond · Jan 16, 2009

Nice results at first glance. I can't speak about too much , as I have just caught up with the last 5 or 6 days of posts. RL has been mugging me for the last week.

Sweetacshon · Jan 17, 2009

Argh... a GA! :gripe:

It seems well executed, and nice report, berserks!

I'm away from home for another day or 2, as my sister has had a baby girl. I'll check things out when i return.

Mesix · Jan 17, 2009

Nice playing. We should be on pace to win in the next TS.

Too bad about the GA. We may not need Rhodes unless there is another potential GP on the way. We need to get Rome to capitulate and take Thebes before we get our victory.

Is a Diplo win agreeable with everyone? If the diplo falls through, taking out Greece or getting him to capitulate will trigger a Conquest win for a backup plan.

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