SGOTM 16 - Fifth Element

[Folket]

We do not need UN. We are AP resident. That is enough for the objective.

 

[Folket]

I have started playing now.

 

[Shaandore]

We do not need UN. We are AP resident. That is enough for the objective.

Do we get the broadcast towers from Eiffel Tower without Mass Media? If not, then I think that Mass Media is worth researching for the +4 happiness everywhere. It would be nice to know this.

BTW I still think that UN Diplo+ Domination are the cheapest and fastest way to finish this game. Or we can change Dom to conquest by razing the other landmass to ground Leave only 1 city there, and finish it off when we have already won the UN elections. That would save us from the tedious and error prone tile counting. (Though it is subpar compared to Domination since we would lose all foreign trade routes)

 

[Folket]

Both Saladin and Hammurabi are willing to trade us democracy after the first turn.

 

[Folket]

Which tech should we sell them. I suggest we trade for rifling with Hammurabi then trade for democracy with Saladin. They will both accept any of our three techs.

 

[Shaandore]

Has SoL been built? (Check top 5 cities/wonders screen)

If not, then it is very good news, let's rade for it. We can get both their money and Rifling, and start SoL in Thebes right now. (Don't forget to change to hammer tiles, and we will get it in 4 turns.)

I said steel before, but I'm not sure it is the best. Maybe it is better than Steam Power since we don't want them to research AL yet. It also doesn't give an economic boost as Biology does.

EDIT: I meant that change to hammer tiles only after the city grew.

 

[BLubmuz]

BTW warring now should be minimal. We need to watch our land percentage. We should get the key cities if we need them. Sushi culture is powerful, amybe we shouldn't spread it overseas.

We also need UN for an objective

I'm speaking of war because we choose a military VC as one of our 2. Then, there's that Sistine which is really gorgeus in Babylon (isn't it in Rome? mmh maybe in another world). But true, Pentagon is not a must. Just, it's better we have +2 free XP than our victims. About Domination , i think that with what we have we don't have to be concerned. We control every tile of our continent and the island cities won't count much. But you're right, we must be careful. Wipe Babylon can be an option, with China and Arabia keeping our borders under control. We must count the tiles owned by Hammu to be sure about this. Then we can strike their border cities to achieve the domination. Just some idea, we need to deepen this option.

Last, yes we don't need UN, nor MM. We're already the AP resident so another objective is completed. To complete the argument, better avoid to research it, to maintain the objective.

 

[Folket]

Seems like our first sid sushi executive failed. What are the chance for it to work? This just delays my plan 1 turn I might whip one executive from Bibactre if needed to produce as many as possible each turn.

I will continue turn 2 and trade democracy and rifling for steel in the end if noone else objects. We will only get 110 gold from them, but I do not want to delay.

 

[Shaandore]

Seems like our first sid sushi executive failed. What are the chance for it to work? This just delays my plan 1 turn I might whip one executive from Bibactre if needed to produce as many as possible each turn.

True.. but the AI usually prioritize Steel first in my games. Which makes Steel less valuable to them. Well I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Maybe Biology is best.

 

[Folket]

We have part researched democracy so I think they will accept steel even when it is no longer a monopoly.

 

[Folket]

I'm stopping for dinner.

We got rifling, democracy, two world maps and 110 gold for steel.

 

[Folket]

Damn, had my circuit breaker trip.

 

[Folket]

I seem to have lost one and a half turn.

 

[Folket]

This is bad. I'm so very sorry. It seems like my autosaves are just every four turn so I lost a full turn and some more.

 

[Shaandore]

In that case you need to PM AlanH. Didn't you set your Autosave interval to 1 turn? You would only lose a half turn.

 

[Folket]

Yes, I did not do that. I have done it now. I'm so ashamed.

 

[Shaandore]

Don't worry, it's okay to forget a few things now and then I doN't think that AlanH will do any sanctions. Just try to recreate all your moves, especially the slider and democracy research. (Not researching it would be the only knowledge we could use to get advantage).

 

[Folket]

I have already made the democracy trade. I was two turns beyond that.

 

[Folket]

I'm at a pickle. I'm at the turn that I lost and it seems like sitting bull wants to trade me fish and rice. But I do not remember him wanting to trade me fish and rice last time.

What will I do?

 

[Folket]

I must have done some things differently. The important things about corporations I did the same but where to build factories and where to build wealth must have changed. Because I do not recognize the gold numbers.