SGOTM 20 - Unusual SuspeX

[Folket]

Confuciusgrad
WE: 38, 39, 45, 36, 46, 49, 44
Catapult: 51, 61, 46

Paulopolis
WE: 12, 13, 47, 42
Catapult 19, 32, 37
+ 3 weak units

Siddhartha Mtn
WE: 18, 33, 31, 26, 32, 19, 35
Catapult: 44, 43, 28

Islamabad
WE: 37, 21, 50, 48, 41, 23, 53
Catapult 48, 49, 29

A lot of units moving towards Edirne

Spoiler :

Turn 152, 840 AD: Ibn Battuta (Great Merchant) has been born in Bursa (Mehmed)!

Turn 153, 860 AD: Istanbul has shrunk to size 13.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Horse City has become happy.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Edirne has shrunk to size 14.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Bursa has shrunk to size 13.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your population: 195 (40.88%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 190 (40.00%)
Turn 153, 860 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 16 ℤ for Novgorod.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your Catapult 19 (Edirne) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 84%!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your Catapult 37 (Horse City) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 82%!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Your Catapult 32 (Copper) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 78%!
Turn 153, 860 AD: Istanbul will shrink to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Edirne will shrink to size 13 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Bursa will shrink to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Iron Stad will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Moscow will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Diyarbakir will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Dijon will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: Yekaterinburg will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 153, 860 AD: You have trained a Caravel in Konya. Work has now begun on a Galley.
Turn 153, 860 AD: A Farm was destroyed by enemy infiltrators!

Turn 154, 880 AD: Istanbul has shrunk to size 12.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Edirne has shrunk to size 13.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Bursa has shrunk to size 12.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Iron Stad has grown to size 5.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Moscow has grown to size 7.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Diyarbakir has grown to size 5.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Dijon has grown to size 5.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Yekaterinburg has grown to size 3.
Turn 154, 880 AD: The borders of Edirne are about to expand.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your population: 197 (40.87%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 192 (40.00%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Catapult 19 (Edirne) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 76%!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Catapult 37 (Horse City) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 74%!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Catapult 32 (Copper) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 70%!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Hinduism has spread in Gaziantep.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Istanbul will shrink to size 11 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Edirne will shrink to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Bursa will shrink to size 11 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Novgorod will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Sindhu Island will grow to size 10 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Yakutsk will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) (8.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (4.80)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Combat Odds: 94.8%
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Amphibious Attack: +50%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (75/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (50/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (25/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Your Confusianim has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Istanbul celebrates "We Love the Monarch Day"!!!
Turn 154, 880 AD: The borders of Edirne have expanded!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Andrew Carnegie (Great Merchant) has been born in Edirne (Mehmed)!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Louis XIV has completed Notre Dame!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer (3.30) vs Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) (8.83)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Combat Odds: 0.4%
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) is hit for 12 (80/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 32 (68/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 32 (36/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 32 (4/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 32 (0/100HP)
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mehmed's Confusianim (War Elephant) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 154, 880 AD: While defending, your Confusianim has killed a Barbarian Archer!

Turn 155, 900 AD: Istanbul has shrunk to size 11.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Edirne has shrunk to size 12.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Bursa has shrunk to size 11.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Novgorod has grown to size 7.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Sindhu Island has grown to size 10.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Yakutsk has grown to size 5.
Turn 155, 900 AD: The borders of Sindhu Island are about to expand.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your population: 198 (40.66%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 194 (40.00%)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Augustus Caesar will trade Engineering
Turn 155, 900 AD: Islam has spread in Konya.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Hinduism has spread in Horse City.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Catapult 19 (Edirne) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 68%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Catapult 37 (Horse City) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 66%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Catapult 32 (Copper) has reduced the defenses of Paulopolis to 62%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Augustus Caesar has 90 gold available for trade.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Napoleon has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Louis XIV has 90 gold available for trade.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter has 50 gold available for trade.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You are the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Augustus Caesar is the worst enemy of Julius Caesar.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Julius Caesar is the worst enemy of Augustus Caesar.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Napoleon is the worst enemy of Louis XIV.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Louis XIV is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Peter is the worst enemy of Churchill, Victoria.
Turn 155, 900 AD: The borders of Sindhu Island are about to expand.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your population: 198 (40.66%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 194 (40.00%)
Turn 155, 900 AD: Augustus Caesar will trade Engineering
Turn 155, 900 AD: Louis XIV will trade Stone, Wine
Turn 155, 900 AD: Will Trade Map: Louis XIV
Turn 155, 900 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Yakutsk.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Hinduism has spread in Filler.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Istanbul will shrink to size 10 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Horse City will grow to size 13 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Ankara will grow to size 10 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Bursa will shrink to size 10 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Seafood City will grow to size 14 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Krasnoyarsk will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Diyarbakir will grow to size 6 on the next turn.

 

[Folket]

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It will cost us 1k gold to get engineering. I do not think that is a good idea. We are better off to tech astronomy and trade Augustus Astronomy for engineering.

Two galleys that just unloaded outside of Confusiusgrad will move east to Paulopolis. A new Trimeme needs to be built.

GM in Edirne should move to Napoleon and make a trade mission in Paris. It will allow us to continue doing 100% research.

Change to slavery next turn.

The two GMs going to England will land in Canterbury in four turns.

Islam missionary will start with copper that might be able to build missionaries at a good pace. Next might run up to Rostov where I could dry whip a few.

 

[Folket]

When do we want to Attack Napoleon? I think we can defeat him pretty fast.

 

[Folket]

I completely failed with GPs in Istanbul. I looked at the city confirming there was 14 merchants, but it was 9. =(

 

[kcd_swede]

I think you should dow nappy asap, because he takes a long time to be willing to talk.

 

[leif erikson]

Looking good, like how you have it all labeled.

It will cost us 1k gold to get engineering. I do not think that is a good idea. We are better off to tech astronomy and trade Augustus Astronomy for engineering.

Better sell him Compass this turn for 90 Gold and see what you can get for Optics. We will not be able to trade for Astro until he has those techs.

Two galleys that just unloaded outside of Confusiusgrad will move east to Paulopolis. A new Trimeme needs to be built.

With the whip back, shouldn't be a problem to get Trireme built

GM in Edirne should move to Napoleon and make a trade mission in Paris. It will allow us to continue doing 100% research.

Don't we need Open Border with Nappy to do a trade mission? He ain't signing one.

Change to slavery next turn.

The two GMs going to England will land in Canterbury in four turns.

Islam missionary will start with copper that might be able to build missionaries at a good pace. Next might run up to Rostov where I could dry whip a few.

Yes, think it is wise.

Declaring on Nappy could happen whenever you are ready. May have to take quite a few of his cities, as swede pointed out, he is stubborn.
Watch out for his Caravels.

Not to worry about Istanbul, it is hard to tell at a glance how many there are because of the way they stack. 5 looks like 10 to me, I went more by the city pop size and how many citizens were working. Think with 4 we had enough.

Now, perhaps a last golden Age?

 

[kcd_swede]

I think GM's can enter borders even without an OB agreement. Could be wrong...

 

[kcd_swede]

Is Islamabad the south barb island? Judaism in the East. Where is Taoism island?

Are we planning to build AP? I see we have pop for dom, but we have quite a bit of land to get. Anybody know what the voting cycle for AP is?

 

[SteelHorse]

Good luck.

 

[SteelHorse]

I think GM's can enter borders even without an OB agreement. Could be wrong...

That is correct.

 

[SteelHorse]

Is Islamabad the south barb island? Judaism in the East. Where is Taoism island?

Are we planning to build AP? I see we have pop for dom, but we have quite a bit of land to get. Anybody know what the voting cycle for AP is?

Proposal Cycle: Proposals take place every 10 turns (14 turns on Epic). There are 4 proposals scheduled between each Resident Election so that means a new election is held every 50 turns; however, this interval can be greatly diminished if there are no possible proposals on the turn that a proposal is scheduled to be made. If this is the case then the next scheduled proposal is moved forward to next turn (instead of 10 turns away) - if that proposal is an election then a new election is held.

 

[Folket]

Can you explain how one would go about and have no proposals?

 

[Folket]

I can play 4 more turns tomorrow and leave it to a new player.

 

[leif erikson]

Just a reminder, we have about 19 days left to us.

 

[SteelHorse]

Can you explain how one would go about and have no proposals?

No sure I understand the question exactly, but each proposal requires certain conditions to be available. If none of the prerequisites are met, no proposals are available.

For example, Holy War condition:

One Full Member must be at war with X and at least one Non-Vassal Full Member must not be at war with X, and X must be a Non-Vassal Non-Member.

Here is a nice page of info on the AP.
AP Page

 

[SteelHorse]

I can play 4 more turns tomorrow and leave it to a new player.

Suggest you go ahead. Time is running and we seem to be short on active player availability.

 

[SteelHorse]

Just a reminder, we have about 19 days left to us.

Heard from CP via PM and he is not available atm.

Let's try again.
Roster:
Folket - UP
kcd Swede - On Deck
Cactus Pete
SteelHorse
Yamps
neil
leif - just played
If Folket and Swede are unavailable, then please post if you can take it. Otherwise, I will try to continue.

How do folks look on availability?
kcd & cp - ready and available?

I can play after next Tuesday (21st).

 

[Cactus Pete]

Sorry, my time is not my own right now.

 

[kcd_swede]

My travel this week got cancelled, so am available. Travel again next week, but just two days so should be ok. I'll need instructions, though.

 

[Folket]

I had a pretty bad headache yesterday but I can play tonight and leave it to the next player. Shall I start the AP, and we might have a chance of finishing it at a good time?