SGOTM8 - Xteam

[DJMGator13]

I only played 10 turns and I have to post quickly we're under a tornado warning and the bad cell is only about 10 miles away. This is part of the front edge of Wilma which did not listen to the weather people who said it would be a Cat 1 as it hit. It's now up to a Cat 3. Going to be a rough night and morning here.

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preturn 1250AD (turn 240)
dial up JPN - trade Wmap & 1140gold for Theory of Gravity and Wmap
then buy Magnetism for 1155gold from them also

Neither JPN or ROM has researched an IA tech yet, we can research Nationalism in 5 turns at 80% at +152gpt so I turn science back on

decide to spend an extra 1000 gold and sign JPN to MA vrs VIK, I had to throw in gems and saltpeter to seal the deal - maybe the extra pressure on the VIK will be helpful

Arrange cities by science output and set 10 cities to libraries (all will complete is less than 10 turns, I'll rush 1 next turn in our strongest science city that was on wealth) this took our gpt down to 149

We only have 1 cav in Tarentum so I'll wait a few turns before declaring on ROM or JPN since there is a JPN structure which floats on water near the city

Adjust cities for happiness and resistence - up to 166gpt now

IBT - quiet
Malmo barracks => worker
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 241 - 1255AD
rush worker/cav in Tarentum
VIK won't talk
found New Los Angeles set to temple for cultural (too near ROM lands)
rush library in Athens (only 1 I plan on rushing)
adjust for happiness/resistence

IBT - 2 VIK floaty things are moving
Athens library => wealth
Washington library => cav
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 242 - 1260AD
a VIK galley left Norwich and another approaches Malmo (I rush a LB there)
VIK still won't talk

Bad news: ROM learned Nationalism this IBT, so I cut back the number of cities I was going to gift to ROM
Reposition some troops and then gift Oslo, New Miami, Santa Fe, and Hastings to ROM (we'll have our 4th cav in Tarentum next turn so that should be enough to capture Jerusalem)
Issue DOW on ROM

Facing regular rifles
@Santa Fe - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@New Miami - recapture, no losses (took 2 cavs)
@ Hastings - recapture, no losses (took 3 cavs, I see a pattern emerging)
@Oslo - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav, so much for the pattern)
reposition troops to western side of former ENG incase of ROM invasion

sign JPN up to MA vrs ROM for 745gold, dyes, wines, incenses and Wmap
lower sci to 60% NAT still in 3 at +385gpt

IBT - VIK land a sword by Malmo / JPN lands 3 sams and a cav by Jerusalem
Beijing library => cav
Malmo LB => LB
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 243 - 1265AD
rush worker/cav in Tarentum
was going to declare on Japan this turn but I'll let them attack Jerusalem first then declare next turn

Malmo LB kills the VIK sword
VIK & ROM won't talk
rush settler in Nidaros, Linkoping & Jonkoping
sci down to 50%

IBT - JPN fails to take Jerusalem only 2 sams left (1/2 and 2/5), then ROM sinks JPN galleon / VIK land another sword near Athens / ROM frigate and galleon approach Viroconium
Nidaros settler => settler
Philly library => wealth
Linkoping settler => settler
Jonkoping settler => settler
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 244 - 1270AD
rush a cav in Tientsin as backup to our 5 cavs on the island
use workers and cavs to form a shield to limit ROM landing
rush worker/cav in Tarentum since ROM has an elite rifle in Jerusalem (I've spent half our treasury now, but trying to shake things up)
VIK & ROM won't talk - time to shut the JPN up also
kill the VIK sword by Athens

Confirm JPN still does not have Nationalism, then gift them New Miami, Coventry, New Detroit, New Chicago, Dover, Uppsala and Hastings
Update Wmap with them, try to extort some gold they refuse so I issue DOW

Facing regular muskets
@Coventry - recapture, no losses (took 2 cavs)
@Hastings - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@Dover - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav - almost messed up here but Dover's citizen was ENG so city did not auto raze)
@New Detroit - Robocop recatures it no losses
@New Miami - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@New Chicago - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@Uppsala - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)

rush 3 cannons on the Viroconium island
rush worker in Malmo

IBT - I left one spot open bt Viroconium and the ROM land a Cav there / we learn NATIONALISM (sci back to 80% for Steam in 5turns)
Boston library => cav
Viroconium cannon => cannon
Tientsin cav => cannon
Malmo worker => wealth
Tarentum cav => worker
Cleveland library => bank
New Philly cannon => cannon
New St Louis cannon => cannon

Turn 245 - 1275AD
kill the ROM cav near Viroconium

Jerusalem
vCav vrs eRifle - we redline and retreat inflict 1hp
vCav vrs 4/5 eRifle - we die inflict 1hp
vCav vrs 3/5 eRifle - we win and capture city
then kill the last remaining JPN sam there

This removes ROM last off island city, let's see what they'll offer up when they finally agree to talk

run sci to 90% for steam in 4 at -13gpt / cycle cities and change some cav builds to workers so that we can RR our main island

found New Cleveland, New Kansas City & New San Diego

IBT - JPN floaty thing shots at our land
Beijing worker => worker
Boston worker => worker
Philly worker => worker
Atlanta worker => worker
Chicago library => worker
Seattle library => worker
Area 51 library => worker
New Orleans worker => worker

Turn 246 - 1280AD
nobody will talk to us
Start Washington on the Military Academy same number of shields as Intelligence Agency - may try to use our GL for Un.Suff to reduce war weariness
position workers
nobody to fight with

IBT - JPN fires at us from the water
Beijing worker => cav
Athens worker => worker
Shanghai harbor => bank
Thermopylae cav => worker
Tacoma harbor => worker
Boston worker => cav
Philly worker => cannon

Turn 247 - 1285AD
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with
start a few more libraries to get to 4 turn research
can lower sci to 80% still in 2 at +81gpt

IBT - Atlanta worker => worker
Chicago worker => worker
Seattle worker => worker
Buffalo temple => aqueduct
Area 51 worker => worker
Balitmore library => worker
Brighton worker => settler

Turn 248 - 1290AD
rush settler in Oslo
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with

IBT - we learn STEAM (set to Indust. in 4 at 90% -52gpt) which renders HG useless
Athens worker => worker
Thermopylae worker => worker
Oslo settler => temple for cultural pressure on Orebro
Tsingtao riots ???
San Fran library => worker
New Seattle worker => worker
Brundisium worker => worker
Macao worker => worker
Shimonosek riots ???
Area 51 worker => cannon
New Orleans worker => worker
Memphis marketplace => worker
New San Fran worker => worker
Albuquerque worker => wealth
New Cincy worker => worker
Caesarea riots ???

Turn 249 - 1295AD
some WW - fix riots
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with
rush settler in Nidaros (about to riot)

we have 2 coals hooked up and several more sources not hooked up, start RR around Washington and Area 51

Using shift ctrl M I check the map to see if there is any coal on our enemies off-island cities and there is not, btw ROM controls both sources of coal on their mainland

IBT - JPN boat pair near Jonkoping
Nidaros settler => settler
Chicago worker => worker
Seattle worker => cannon
Norrkoping worker => worker
Houston bank => wealth
Shimonoseki deposes to JPN taking a cav with it
Baltimore worker => wealth
Oakland worker => worker

Turn 250 - 1300AD
recapture Shimoneski without any losses
nobody will talk to us
found New Richmond & New Las Vegas (rush the temple in New Las Vegas next turn)
sci down to 80% still in 3 at +61gpt

 

[DJMGator13]

I only played 10 turns and I have to post quickly we're under a tornado warning and the bad cell is only about 10 miles away. This is part of the front edge of Wilma which did not listen to the weather people who said it would be a Cat 1 as it hit. It's now up to a Cat 3. Going to be a rough night and morning here.

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preturn 1250AD (turn 240)
dial up JPN - trade Wmap & 1140gold for Theory of Gravity and Wmap
then buy Magnetism for 1155gold from them also

Neither JPN or ROM has researched an IA tech yet, we can research Nationalism in 5 turns at 80% at +152gpt so I turn science back on

decide to spend an extra 1000 gold and sign JPN to MA vrs VIK, I had to throw in gems and saltpeter to seal the deal - maybe the extra pressure on the VIK will be helpful

Arrange cities by science output and set 10 cities to libraries (all will complete is less than 10 turns, I'll rush 1 next turn in our strongest science city that was on wealth) this took our gpt down to 149

We only have 1 cav in Tarentum so I'll wait a few turns before declaring on ROM or JPN since there is a JPN structure which floats on water near the city

Adjust cities for happiness and resistence - up to 166gpt now

IBT - quiet
Malmo barracks => worker
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 241 - 1255AD
rush worker/cav in Tarentum
VIK won't talk
found New Los Angeles set to temple for cultural (too near ROM lands)
rush library in Athens (only 1 I plan on rushing)
adjust for happiness/resistence

IBT - 2 VIK floaty things are moving
Athens library => wealth
Washington library => cav
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 242 - 1260AD
a VIK galley left Norwich and another approaches Malmo (I rush a LB there)
VIK still won't talk

Bad news: ROM learned Nationalism this IBT, so I cut back the number of cities I was going to gift to ROM
Reposition some troops and then gift Oslo, New Miami, Santa Fe, and Hastings to ROM (we'll have our 4th cav in Tarentum next turn so that should be enough to capture Jerusalem)
Issue DOW on ROM

Facing regular rifles
@Santa Fe - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@New Miami - recapture, no losses (took 2 cavs)
@ Hastings - recapture, no losses (took 3 cavs, I see a pattern emerging)
@Oslo - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav, so much for the pattern)
reposition troops to western side of former ENG incase of ROM invasion

sign JPN up to MA vrs ROM for 745gold, dyes, wines, incenses and Wmap
lower sci to 60% NAT still in 3 at +385gpt

IBT - VIK land a sword by Malmo / JPN lands 3 sams and a cav by Jerusalem
Beijing library => cav
Malmo LB => LB
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 243 - 1265AD
rush worker/cav in Tarentum
was going to declare on Japan this turn but I'll let them attack Jerusalem first then declare next turn

Malmo LB kills the VIK sword
VIK & ROM won't talk
rush settler in Nidaros, Linkoping & Jonkoping
sci down to 50%

IBT - JPN fails to take Jerusalem only 2 sams left (1/2 and 2/5), then ROM sinks JPN galleon / VIK land another sword near Athens / ROM frigate and galleon approach Viroconium
Nidaros settler => settler
Philly library => wealth
Linkoping settler => settler
Jonkoping settler => settler
Tarentum cav => worker

Turn 244 - 1270AD
rush a cav in Tientsin as backup to our 5 cavs on the island
use workers and cavs to form a shield to limit ROM landing
rush worker/cav in Tarentum since ROM has an elite rifle in Jerusalem (I've spent half our treasury now, but trying to shake things up)
VIK & ROM won't talk - time to shut the JPN up also
kill the VIK sword by Athens

Confirm JPN still does not have Nationalism, then gift them New Miami, Coventry, New Detroit, New Chicago, Dover, Uppsala and Hastings
Update Wmap with them, try to extort some gold they refuse so I issue DOW

Facing regular muskets
@Coventry - recapture, no losses (took 2 cavs)
@Hastings - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@Dover - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav - almost messed up here but Dover's citizen was ENG so city did not auto raze)
@New Detroit - Robocop recatures it no losses
@New Miami - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@New Chicago - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)
@Uppsala - recapture, no losses (took 1 cav)

rush 3 cannons on the Viroconium island
rush worker in Malmo

IBT - I left one spot open bt Viroconium and the ROM land a Cav there / we learn NATIONALISM (sci back to 80% for Steam in 5turns)
Boston library => cav
Viroconium cannon => cannon
Tientsin cav => cannon
Malmo worker => wealth
Tarentum cav => worker
Cleveland library => bank
New Philly cannon => cannon
New St Louis cannon => cannon

Turn 245 - 1275AD
kill the ROM cav near Viroconium

Jerusalem
vCav vrs eRifle - we redline and retreat inflict 1hp
vCav vrs 4/5 eRifle - we die inflict 1hp
vCav vrs 3/5 eRifle - we win and capture city
then kill the last remaining JPN sam there

This removes ROM last off island city, let's see what they'll offer up when they finally agree to talk

run sci to 90% for steam in 4 at -13gpt / cycle cities and change some cav builds to workers so that we can RR our main island

found New Cleveland, New Kansas City & New San Diego

IBT - JPN floaty thing shots at our land
Beijing worker => worker
Boston worker => worker
Philly worker => worker
Atlanta worker => worker
Chicago library => worker
Seattle library => worker
Area 51 library => worker
New Orleans worker => worker

Turn 246 - 1280AD
nobody will talk to us
Start Washington on the Military Academy same number of shields as Intelligence Agency - may try to use our GL for Un.Suff to reduce war weariness
position workers
nobody to fight with

IBT - JPN fires at us from the water
Beijing worker => cav
Athens worker => worker
Shanghai harbor => bank
Thermopylae cav => worker
Tacoma harbor => worker
Boston worker => cav
Philly worker => cannon

Turn 247 - 1285AD
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with
start a few more libraries to get to 4 turn research
can lower sci to 80% still in 2 at +81gpt

IBT - Atlanta worker => worker
Chicago worker => worker
Seattle worker => worker
Buffalo temple => aqueduct
Area 51 worker => worker
Balitmore library => worker
Brighton worker => settler

Turn 248 - 1290AD
rush settler in Oslo
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with

IBT - we learn STEAM (set to Indust. in 4 at 90% -52gpt) which renders HG useless
Athens worker => worker
Thermopylae worker => worker
Oslo settler => temple for cultural pressure on Orebro
Tsingtao riots ???
San Fran library => worker
New Seattle worker => worker
Brundisium worker => worker
Macao worker => worker
Shimonosek riots ???
Area 51 worker => cannon
New Orleans worker => worker
Memphis marketplace => worker
New San Fran worker => worker
Albuquerque worker => wealth
New Cincy worker => worker
Caesarea riots ???

Turn 249 - 1295AD
some WW - fix riots
nobody will talk to us
nobody to fight with
rush settler in Nidaros (about to riot)

we have 2 coals hooked up and several more sources not hooked up, start RR around Washington and Area 51

Using shift ctrl M I check the map to see if there is any coal on our enemies off-island cities and there is not, btw ROM controls both sources of coal on their mainland

IBT - JPN boat pair near Jonkoping
Nidaros settler => settler
Chicago worker => worker
Seattle worker => cannon
Norrkoping worker => worker
Houston bank => wealth
Shimonoseki deposes to JPN taking a cav with it
Baltimore worker => wealth
Oakland worker => worker

Turn 250 - 1300AD
recapture Shimoneski without any losses
nobody will talk to us
found New Richmond & New Las Vegas (rush the temple in New Las Vegas next turn)
sci down to 80% still in 3 at +61gpt

 

[WillowBrook]

I have no problem with you playing 5 more turns. I hope Wilma isn't giving you too much trouble!

 

[bluebox]

Seems like I'd be next. If you ghave the time to play on, Gator, your suggestion is fine with me. Nice to speed things up.

How many more turns do we need until ESP? What about a CIA prebuild?

 

[leif erikson]

I'm thru 10 turns. No one will talk so the turns are pretty boring. We're researching at 4turn pace and RR. If you want I can play 5 more turns just to speed things up some. If someone will talk I'll post the save and let the next player have it. Is that OK?

As I explained in my PM, sorry I wasn't able to answer this last night. If you still have time, it is OK by me.

 

[bluebox]

Good luck to you and your beloved ones, Gator!!

You've posted the save. Shall I take over?

 

[leif erikson]

It sounds as though Gator may be having a busy day in Florida with Wilma. We hope that all is well there and that there is no damage. Good luck Gator!

Given that situation and to keep the game moving, I am going to assume Gator means to hand off the game as 10 turns are complete.

Roster:
Bluebox - UP
Leif - On Deck
Willow
Capt.
Nemesis
Gator - Just Played.

Sounds like we need to continue researching to Espionage and keep the pre-build for CIA working. I think you know the rest!!

Good luck Bluebox!!

 

[WillowBrook]

Are we using a pre-build for the CIA or the leader? (Sorry, haven't had time to look at the save or read the posts carefully)

 

[bluebox]

Seems like I'm not up-to-date with the details. We have a leader?

Got it!

 

[DJMGator13]

I was able to post the save last night and somehow squeaked in the thread post before the forum upgrade. Sorry for not posting a hand-off report I was afraid I was about to lose internet connection and/or power last night.

Turns are pretty quick right now as no one will talk to us. I have us researching at max speed to espionage and have started a RR campaign on our mainland.

There is a prebuild in Washington for the Intelligence Agency, need to check it's timing to make sure it doesn't complete too early. I was thinking we could use the GL for Un.Suff or if we really need to research to Adv Flight we may want to save it for TOE.

The collision of the cold front and the outer edges of Wilma last night was bad. Heavy rain, lightning, winds and tornado warnings for our area. We've had over 8 inches of rain so far and we are now into the worst part of Wilma for our area. So far we're weathering the storm, just need to make it a few more hours.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

Btw: the MGL came on my turn set and sat in Scandinavia, outside Oslo last time I looked...

 

[DJMGator13]

Sherman is still in the same spot, just outside the city incase of a flip.

BTW, they are still flying into OIA today so I have to make an airport trip in a few hours. The winds are dying down so it shouldn't be too bad of a trip. Disney is closed but the airplanes are still flying, go figure.

 

[WillowBrook]

My vote would be to build the CIA by hand, as it appears we have a good pre-build going. If we manage to get a city on the mainland through espionage, it would be good to be able to build Universal Suffrage to keep WW from reducing our income.

 

[leif erikson]

My vote would be to build the CIA by hand, as it appears we have a good pre-build going. If we manage to get a city on the mainland through espionage, it would be good to be able to build Universal Suffrage to keep WW from reducing our income.

I agree with this line of thought as well as long as CIA isn't delayed. We need some propaganda, and soon!

I've got to check out the save yet.

Hang in there Gator. Hope it isn't too bad. I can't believe the airport is open. Those things always create very dangerous current of air near runways, not good to get caught on takeoff.

As it ends for you, it looks like it'll begin for me. They are forecasting that Wilma's remains will be here tomorrow, along with 50 to 60 MPH winds. Who needs a plane when you could ride Wilma!!

 

[DJMGator13]

Good luck with the storm leif. It's done with here and now we get to have record lows for tonight. I think they're talking about upper 40's in October!

Well I'm off to the airport.

 

[Capt Buttkick]

Good luck with the storm leif. It's done with here and now we get to have record lows for tonight. I think they're talking about upper 40's in October!

We're actually pretty happy here cause we haven't had frost yet

 

[Mistfit]

It was 28 deg this morn when I left for work

 

[leif erikson]

Good luck with the storm leif. It's done with here and now we get to have record lows for tonight. I think they're talking about upper 40's in October!

Well I'm off to the airport.

Thanks. Sounds as though you weathered another fairly well? I think it hit more to the south of you, no? I think it'll be just a lot of wind and more rain, just got done with 10 straight days of it?

It was 28 deg this morn when I left for work

That will be here soon enough. Hope you've got those long undies out!!

Perhaps we should all go to the Capt.'s Cabin as

We're actually pretty happy here cause we haven't had frost yet

Good luck Bluebox, get us a city!!!! Please????

 

[bluebox]

Prebuild is almost perfectly timed, just one turn late to ESP. Leader for UNISUFF became part of my plan too. I'd select New San Diego (I think it is) for it.

Good luck Bluebox, get us a city!!!! Please????

Thanks! I'll oversee this propaganda ops personally.


Gotta get my flight to Langley!

 

[DJMGator13]

Prebuild is almost perfectly timed, just one turn late to ESP. Leader for UNISUFF became part of my plan too. I'd select New San Diego (I think it is) for it.

I thought I had it pretty close, I wonder if some more RR might drop that last turn? Just remember to change the build using TBP.

Hopefully the VIK will be ready to talk soon. The Capt declared on them in his turnset, so they should be ready to talk anytime.