Should AI Write books?

[Joij21]

How would AI replicate the effect of a person's gut biome on their brain and how they think, behave and feel?

What would significant replication be to you? Does the machine actually have to genuinely feel those things internally within it's neural matrix? Or does it simply have to adequately replicate the outward expressions of those feelings?

Because we as humans are not telepathic we can never truly know what's going on emotionally inside the heads of our peers, they must externally express those feelings via some sort of medium, making sounds, contortions of the face, etc. The machine in theory doesn't have to genuinely feel but simply adequately mimick the various methods of external expression in order for it to obsolete most of the arts and various other creative works.

In case you're thinking it just wouldn't connect, they have algorithms tracking everyone's data across the entire internet as well as social media to command the AI to express emotions that replicate the current emotional trends that are taking place across a variety of platforms to create perfectly tailored mimicked expressions for the majority of the masses at any given time.

Or it could stalk you particular and make an expression specifically tailored to you based on your catalogued interests which are bookmarked by these algorithms from your activity over the years across the internet.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Why should "write a story" be science fiction? You can literally enter that into chatgpt and it will provide you with a story. Probably not a good story, but a story nevertheless. Maybe some prompt generation is required to seed it with a bit of randomness

Spoiler :

In the heart of the bustling city, a cluster of offices stood in a row, their windows reflecting the bright sunlight in a blinding glary display. Each office housed a different company, and while the businesses varied from a traditional accounting firm to a Tyburnian-themed coffee shop, there was one thing they all shared: a distinct lack of nonservileness towards their eccentric landlord, Mr. Percival Potts.

Mr. Potts, a man of Tyburnian descent, had a penchant for metal-shaping in his free time. Unfortunately, his "artistic" creations tended to resemble abstract metal squiggles more than anything else. He adorned the corridors of the office building with these sculptures, much to the bewilderment of the tenants. The oddest piece, a twisted mass of metal that was supposed to be a representation of a coffee cup, stood right in front of the Tyburnian coffee shop's entrance, raising numerous eyebrows.

One fateful Monday morning, as the offices buzzed with activity, an unexpected announcement echoed through the building. It was Mr. Potts himself, his voice projecting through the intercom system with an air of glary authority.

"Good day, fine tenants!" his voice boomed, sending pens dropping and coffee cups spilling. "I have devised a contest that shall showcase the best of Tyburnian metal-shaping talents!"

A collective groan resonated from the offices. The last thing the tenants wanted was to spend their precious work hours engaging in artistic pursuits, especially if those pursuits involved imitating Mr. Potts' peculiar metal art.

But Mr. Potts was not one to be deterred by nonservileness. He explained the rules of the contest: each office team had to create a piece of metal art that represented their business in the most "Tyburnian" manner possible. The winning team would receive a week's worth of free coffee from the Tyburnian-themed coffee shop.

As the employees grudgingly formed teams and began brainstorming, the office building transformed into a chaotic blend of creativity and confusion. Accountants attempted to fashion metal spreadsheets (which suspiciously looked like abstract blobs), while the coffee shop employees bent metal into peculiar shapes that vaguely resembled cups but bore striking resemblances to Mr. Potts' creations.

Meanwhile, the Tyburnian-themed coffee shop's team decided to construct a metal sculpture of a barista crafting a cappuccino, complete with a metal froth that seemed to defy gravity. Despite the nonsensical nature of the project, the team couldn't help but giggle at their own silliness.

When the day of reckoning arrived, the office corridors were transformed into a makeshift art gallery, adorned with the strange metal creations. Mr. Potts, adorned in an elaborate Tyburnian-themed outfit, strutted down the hallway like a self-proclaimed art connoisseur, critiquing each piece with a glary intensity that would put an art critic to shame.

After much deliberation, he finally announced the winner: the Tyburnian-themed coffee shop's team, who had embraced the absurdity of the contest and channeled their inner Tyburnian spirit with their gravity-defying froth.

As a reward, the coffee shop team indulged in their free coffee, and the rest of the offices returned to their daily routines, grateful that the ordeal was over. And while the metal art might not have been a masterpiece, the nonservileness towards Mr. Potts had inadvertently united the offices in laughter, creating a comedic memory that would be retold with chuckles for years to come.

"glary"? So the AI is making up nonsense words?

 

[GenMarshall]

"glary"? So the AI is making up nonsense words?

I had to look up the word since this the first I've heard of it. Come to find out, there is the word "glary" to describe having a dazzling brightness.

 

[Joij21]

I will say this though, from a financial/big business/Wall Street perspective I think this is a bubble. More specifically none of this will be commodifiable precisely because before ChatGPT was abducted by Microsoft to be further developed by them in house they were open source meaning any nerd or geek programmer on the Internet could have freely taken the last good model before it became a closed garden and make a personal fork of it which they could then further train and improve on their own personal data sets. And we know they did because some would also regurgitate some of their forks back to the official ChatGPT website so their improvements could be added back into the main branch, this is how their open source model accelerated the development of the AI so quickly they were using hobbyist's personal data sets plus their own.

What this means is there are hobbyist programmers on the Internet who posses the last good model before it was closed off, meaning they can continue to train it themselves and make parallel versions that they can either sell themselves, thus ruining Microsoft's attempt to gain a monopoly, or some of these hobbyists might release their versions FOR FREE (as a lot of video game modders throughout the Internet have done as many hobbyists due sometimes share what they program/develop as a personal side hobby with their friends or the public) thus making all the other people which are trying to commodity some version and sell it off to some gullible big tech or financial company in a get rich quick scheme irrelevant, because someone will eventually post a really good version that is free.

The only reason the ChatGPT company itself decided to stop being open source is because Microsoft just started throwing big bucks at them so they complied (cause who doesn't want to become a millionaire even if it isn't long term stable? It's Microsoft's problem to deal with and take on the risk of desperately trying to commodify now!)

Basically right now it's a game of hot potato, keep selling it off for profit to the next loser. But don't be the last one holding the hot potato when it finally blows up!!!

 

[Hygro]

They licensed a version to Microsoft which has since diverged. Microsoft can't have a monopoly on OpenAI's GPT4 because OpenAI is also "selling" it direct, themselves, with a differently tuned model.

Basically Microsoft, while a huge billions-of-dollars investor of OpenAI, does not own OpenAI nor direct it.

There are other viable competitors to GPT, such as Bard and Claude, but for quality I only use OpenAI's GPT-4 version and not even Microsoft's.

 

[Joij21]

They licensed a version to Microsoft which has since diverged. Microsoft can't have a monopoly on OpenAI's GPT4 because OpenAI is also "selling" it direct, themselves, with a differently tuned model.

Basically Microsoft, while a huge billions-of-dollars investor of OpenAI, does not own OpenAI nor direct it.

There are other viable competitors to GPT, such as Bard and Claude, but for quality I only use OpenAI's GPT-4 version and not even Microsoft's.

But that's the whole point, at some point a free one will be posted by someone of sufficient quality that all the mounds of money that various companies have been throwing at this stuff will go up in flames because then they'll realize they can't commodify it and get their invested money back.

 

[Hygro]

But that's the whole point, at some point a free one will be posted by someone of sufficient quality that all the mounds of money that various companies have been throwing at this stuff will go up in flames because then they'll realize they can't commodify it and get their invested money back.

It's possible. So far OpenAI continues to lead both corporate and community attempts. But there's a growing belief a community version will do what you say it will do. Future training data is going to be harder to scrape (Reddit's' API pricing change for example) and the best versions will be run on a network of graphics cards which is out of reach by decentralized individuals so there's still room for the big players' to keep advantage in the event that they no longer have the best LLM.

 

[Joij21]

Future training data is going to be harder to scrape (Reddit's' API pricing change for example) and the best versions will be run on a network of graphics cards which is out of reach by decentralized individuals

I think you will find that the black market and dark web will facilitate a great equalizer of the various players here.

 

[Joij21]

Stolen and hacked data sets stolen by hackers and stolen graphics cards from hardware stores from criminal gangs which are already being organized through TikTok to loot various stores then sell the product at discount on the dark web.

 

[Hygro]

I think you will find that the black market and dark web will facilitate a great equalizer of the various players here.

How so?

I see your second post, I don't see how cheaper cards stolen from stores overcomes an actual scale problem.

 

[Caesar of Bread]

2000 years of labor by a total of fifteen aristocrats. Who cares. It's the age of mass communication, baby. Oldies are moldy.

No, there have been way more poets and authors than you realize, my good friend. And a lot of them aren’t some wacko aristocrats as you may believe. For example, Phillis Wheatley was an enslaved African American woman when she wrote her first collection of poems. She was one of the best poets around in that century, and I suggest you read some of her works. Also, look at Dante Alighieri, another poet. He was exiled from Florence and went city-hopping in Italy when writing the Divine Comedy. Playwright Oscar Wilde had to live in a homophobic world, so terrible for him that he was tried for being gay.

 

[Kyriakos]

I think that, pretty soon, AI will be producing works which (while the AI itself wouldn't be conscious of their value) can realistically be interpreted by humans as something notable.
Already plenty of people use it for videos/short movies, although afaik they mostly feed it text. There's an excellent series of videos with dead actors.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Formula books (romance novels, thrillers, etc.) might be the first to gain a footing.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Formula books (romance novels, thrillers, etc.) might be the first to gain a footing.

Robert Silverberg wrote a lot of formula crime novels and soft porn before he became known for his science fiction. Quite a few are under pseudonyms, and there are people in his online group who are searching them out to collect. They would not be pleased to find anything with Silverberg (or one of his pseudonyms) actually written by a bot.

Silverberg himself helpfully answers questions when asked; he's not writing new material anymore, but still makes money from new collections (anthologies) and foreign language translations. Some of his books and stories have been optioned, but who knows if they'll ever become movies. The one book people really wish he'd authorize for optioning is the one he absolutely won't, though. He has no faith in Hollywood to do justice to Lord Valentine's Castle, even though modern CGI could do a vastly better job of portraying the vast array of aliens inhabiting Majipoor than the technology of the early 1980s.

Not to mention the scope of the planet itself. Majipoor is immense.