Slavery and Universal Sufferage

[napoleon123]

How do I sacrifice population and spend gold to hurry production?

 

[maltz]

First, double click on the city.

In the lower right corner of the map, you will see a small panel: "Focus on Food", "Focus on Hammer", "Avoid growht", and some other small icons.

On the top of the panel you will have the option of Slavery and Rush Buying. You will need to have enough pop. and Slavery chosen as your Civic to whip, and Universal Sufferage chosen and enough cash to enable rush buying.

 

[Yzman]

When you put those two together, which you can have, doesn't it seem rather weird to have slaves that can vote?

 

[ArmoredCavalry]

The people who OWN the slaves can vote. I'm just wondering If you can buy and whip the same production (as in, can I do both to one thing at once, or does it have to be one or the other?)

 

[Yzman]

Its one of the other, because a rush always rushes the whole thing, there would be no way to split it between them.

 

[Bezhukov]

"The people who OWN the slaves can vote."

If they're the only ones, then the suffrage isn't universal...

 

[xonixs]

the option 4 in the religion sector (peace religion) and have police state. its not well seen to use violence when in conflicts. The Gods will take care of that. Only the state has the right to use force.

 

[Pantastic]

The two concepts aren't really that opposed, the core concept of universal suffrage is "all adult citizens can vote" not "every single person can vote". No country that practices what might be called "universal suffrage" today comes close to letting everyone vote; some portion of non-citizens (in some cases even if long-time residents), those under a certain age, the severely ******** or insane, criminals (especially while jailed), and other exluded categories aren't allowed to vote. It would be very easy to have a system where slaves aren't considered citizens (like US pre CW), or suffer some other disqualification.

Even if we presume that slaves can vote, it still doesn't mean that they can vote themselves free. Laws or traditions can make it difficult or impossible for a 'free the slaves' candidate to come to office; for example, in the US today there are no credible candidates that I could vote for to end the War on Drugs, and it would be easy to have a country with a consitution (or equivalent) that specifically allows slavery that also requires that all candidates swear to uphold it. The votes of slaves can be controlled more easily than those of industrial workers (since slaves can't just move away), so a vote collecting setup like Taminy Hall could work even more easily to have slaves come in and vote with one of their owner's men double-checking the ballots.

 

[East St Trader]

Well that is more of a demonstration that universal suffrage remains an aspiration rather than a reconciliation of the irreconcilable.