So I tried Diety for the first time...

Numi

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and just wow, like seriously, WOW. By the time i had 3 small cities down Ghandi had about 7. He had like 4 people near my capital so i figured maybe i could flex my muscles as Babylon with my better tech maybe and scare him off my land. In the following 20 turns he churns out about 30 units that i do a fair job at cutting down about 10, meanwhile he took over my other 2 cities with ease at about 4 units each and had about 10 more waiting for my capital, i was like F this im rage quitting.

How is it possible to compete?
 
Civ IV Deity was only possible by abusing AI weaknesses and imbalances/exploits in the game (Chopping/Whipping for example). These imbalances and weaknesses haven't been identified as strongly yet, so it will be some time.

Civ IV was a numbers game where you abuse religion and AI attitudes... they had no desire to win, and were essentially slaves to people who were good at the numbers game.

Give people time to figure it out.
 
and just wow, like seriously, WOW. By the time i had 3 small cities down Ghandi had about 7. He had like 4 people near my capital so i figured maybe i could flex my muscles as Babylon with my better tech maybe and scare him off my land. In the following 20 turns he churns out about 30 units that i do a fair job at cutting down about 10, meanwhile he took over my other 2 cities with ease at about 4 units each and had about 10 more waiting for my capital, i was like F this im rage quitting.

How is it possible to compete?

Should that not be considered poor tactics on the part of the Indian due to his ability?
 
I think the key is not to let India get such a head start. You took the time to build 2 settler but the time to strike at an expansionist civ is very early.
 
Civ IV Deity was only possible by abusing AI weaknesses and imbalances/exploits in the game (Chopping/Whipping for example). These imbalances and weaknesses haven't been identified as strongly yet, so it will be some time.

Civ IV was a numbers game where you abuse religion and AI attitudes... they had no desire to win, and were essentially slaves to people who were good at the numbers game.

Give people time to figure it out.

Haven't several people already beaten Deity? Do we know anything about their strategies?
 
Haven't several people already beaten Deity? Do we know anything about their strategies?

You play on small maps and abuse the AI's tactical stupidity. You can beat the AI's 20-30 units with 4-5 of your own fairly easily actually. It especially helps if you have an early UU.

I doubt anyone has been able to beat deity on a larger map yet though where the AIs have room to spread out and an insurmountable tech and production lead before you have time to conquer them all. It will eventually happen, but people need to learn the game a bit more and find the loopholes still.
 
I think the key is not to let India get such a head start. You took the time to build 2 settler but the time to strike at an expansionist civ is very early.

No. The AI heavily cheats, if you don't build settlers you have lost already. Build up a small empire and a small force of mixed units (including catapults). keep them tight, have some workers as bait and you can easily beat an enemy with 2x or 3x the forces. They don't know anything about warfare and the cheating is not enough.
 
and just wow, like seriously, WOW. By the time i had 3 small cities down Ghandi had about 7. He had like 4 people near my capital so i figured maybe i could flex my muscles as Babylon with my better tech maybe and scare him off my land. In the following 20 turns he churns out about 30 units that i do a fair job at cutting down about 10, meanwhile he took over my other 2 cities with ease at about 4 units each and had about 10 more waiting for my capital, i was like F this im rage quitting.

How is it possible to compete?

Because it's Deity level? Clearly it's too hard for you. :p
 
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