Raiki
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Fair enough. Still doesn't make it any easier not to twitch every time I see it.
:shrug: No big deal, I suppose. Carry on with your intarwebbingz.
~R~
Social Policy updates in G&K?
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Fair enough. Still doesn't make it any easier not to twitch every time I see it.
:shrug: No big deal, I suppose. Carry on with your intarwebbingz.
~R~
In the past games,they've tried to nerf Freedom in order to buff Order/Autocracy,as they think that such SP branch was too powerful . They only realize that the real problem with Freedom,that make such SP too much chosen,in comparison with Order/Autocracy,was the fact that it was opened in Renaissance era,unlike Order/Autocracy,so they decided to move this SP to Industrial era . With that,I wouldn't be surprised if Freedom got buffed again . Considering how much (un)powerful GAs are,I think that the Freedom opener(Instead the Freedom finisher) should allow using faith to buy GAs .
GoodSarmatian
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GAs might get a buff.
Citadels in G&K will increase your territory like culture bombs do now, so there's a good chance GAs will have a new ability instead. I hope they'll give a significant culture boost or a free policy to help with cultural victories. That would make them actually useful by the time Freedom is unlocked.
Citadels in G&K will increase your territory like culture bombs do now, so there's a good chance GAs will have a new ability instead. I hope they'll give a significant culture boost or a free policy to help with cultural victories. That would make them actually useful by the time Freedom is unlocked.
I agree with you. I hope for the day that when you get a free Great Person, the choice among the four would be difficult to make (instead of choosing among two).
elprofesor
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If the other regular GPs can't start a golden age now, you aren't buffing GAs, you are nerfing GMs :/
The Great Scientist has been nerfed indirectly, because GnK will have a higher number of techs, and, if the early part of the tech tree is anything to go by, techs will have more prerequisites and beelining will be a lot harder.
You can't buy city state influence as easily with gold anymore, so the GM has become more valuable in that regard.
I kinda feel that way too, but given that as Calouste mentioned CSes will be harder to bribe, GMs could be more important. You're right, though, that taking away the ability for GEs and GSes to start a golden age doesn't really make Great Artists any better because bulking and rushing are so good you'd never use a scientist or engineer for a golden age anyways. If GAs get a nice ability in place of Culture Bomb, which we can probably assume is getting removed because it's been co-opted by the citadel ability, that would be then they could actually be a welcome sight in all games, not just ones where you're pursuing 1 out if the 4 different win conditions. Being able to "bulb" for a stack of culture is what my bet's on, but I's rather it were something a little less obvious and more distinct from the GS's ability.
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I'm kinda thinking the Great Artists will either be getting a Free SP ability or their culture bomb will be bigger (2 tile radius instead of 1).
GoodSarmatian
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Source ?
I've seen from screenshots that generals and prophets can't start golden ages, but they are special cases anyway. There's nothing that indicates Great Scientists or Engineers were changed.
It would be weird to limit a temporary gold and production boost to Great Artists. A culture related ability would make much more sense.
and some of us know how to spell, while others pretend to use 'english'.
oddly, the AI seems to be just smart enough to know that 'no CS = no Patronage'.
the rest is rather garbage, but I doubt you've spent much time doing Culture VCs. Mathematically, Piety (vanilla) is a requirement for a culture VC. It's not just the free SP, but the boosts contained within the Piety tree that make it better for that VC.
I'm afraid not. I tried a Deity OCC recently, duel map, no CS, only culture victory allowed.
Siam AI not only filled out Patronage completely, but also filled out Piety then scrapped it to fill out Rationalism as well
He still won though
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No way it will be a free SP, when I'm playing for a cultural win I usually end up with 4-5 GA's by the end of the game, 4-5 free policies would be way too much. Unless they are making cultural victories harder to pull off in G&K in the first place, that ability would be quite overpowered.
