spawning in the middle of pangaea

[tripleducky]

so with four civs bordering you, on all sides, is there any way to avoid getting flanked?

I had literally all four civs neighboring me declare at some point in the game without provocation, usually two at at time (as though they are aware I can't fight on two fronts. SO clever. -_-) One was even a friend who betrayed me for no apparent reason.

I did take some cities from the first 2 civs that declared on me, so that might have provoked a warmongering penalty or whatnot.

I mean, is there some way to avoid being taken advantage of in this situation? Even if you go tall, they seem to immediately decided that "the lands you have taken are rightfully ours."

Is spawning in the middle the ultimate disadvantage, or am I missing something? Seems like an inherent imbalance in Pangaea maps. It all seems so fair when you're not the one in the middle.

 

[LukaSlovenia29]

Yeah, in my experience in those games you have to go Authority and then warmonger until you've grown so big&strong that you can handle DoW's from multiple AIs at the same time. I think VP's AI has been so finely tuned it recognizes weakness (militarily) even if the AIs are otherwise more peaceful by nature, as I've been DoW'ed by the Netherlands, Incas, Brazil, ..., and other civs that aren't traditionally considered so aggressive.

So my advice if you find yourself in the middle of Pangea -> prepare for a game full of warfare or restart the game

 

[chicorbeef]

Well, if you go Authority....the more war the merrier, right?

Don't forward settle civs in those cases too if possible, and try not to settle coastal cities as they require extra defense and can be picked off. Don't settle too much in general, you don't have to self-settle a lot of cities as Authority.

Build walls on one front, they can save you a lot of defense spending. Your main army can deal with the other.

And don't try going Tradition or Progress you will end up just getting devoured and be unable to do anything about it.