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I think it would be pretty to easy to see that the "hamburger' is originally German, since it is named after a city in Germany (Hamburg). If the name was american, it would be made with ham.
Its false advertising to make a HAMburger with beef. Maybe that is american.
Its false advertising to make a HAMburger with beef. Maybe that is american.
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The "frankfurter" is also named after a german city. Not sure how that evolved into the "hot dog".
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Pizza is likely named after an italian city, where the leaning tower of piza is. Not as sure about this one, I may be halucinating.
i think all the UU's are perfect, except for the way some of them look unhistorically such as the jaguar warrior and berserk.
and as useless as the F-15 is in the game, i think it's a great uu for america. if you read the civilopedia for america then you'd know why. the country was in a bad state of unpatriotism before the gulf war, and it was lifted once the war started. the F-15 is like the mascot for that war. our golden age really didn't start to kick in until then, showing our military dominence, rising our nation from a bad slump, and the fortunate fall of the soviet union.
and as useless as the F-15 is in the game, i think it's a great uu for america. if you read the civilopedia for america then you'd know why. the country was in a bad state of unpatriotism before the gulf war, and it was lifted once the war started. the F-15 is like the mascot for that war. our golden age really didn't start to kick in until then, showing our military dominence, rising our nation from a bad slump, and the fortunate fall of the soviet union.
of course it's from before then. the F-4 was made before vietnam and it's a symbol of that war (and is actually still being used). maybe the F-4 should have been the UU so it would have better tech placement, but the F-15 is more known to the common american because the only part of vietnam that was really televised was the ground; the gulf war had everything including bombings right on your tv screen and like i said, was the real beginning of our golden age. also, the guerilla (probably the most important and useful unit in ptw) is using an AK-47 an is available with Infantry who have Bolt action rifles, but i think it was a good choice of placement for game strategy.
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As to germany being the main source of "sausage related meat products" I say Balony (bologna, an Italian city). Choreitho (spelling is not one of my strong suits, it may even be a void) is Spanish/Mexican sausage. Lots of potted meats come from places other than Germany. Even the french have pate' and "charcoutierie" (another nightmare to those of us spelling challenged). The idea of cutting up meat and mixing it with spices is not a German invention, although the germans do a fine job with sausage. Wurst, I think is the name. Blud wurst, Liver Wurst, etc. Germans have the wurst ideas.
Back to the F-15. If the UU is to be patriotic, then every UU should be that way.
Englands could be... well, England? That hasn't been an independent nation since pre-Elezabethan times! UU would need to be old, like Crusade knights.
If it were replaced with Great Britain then the Spitfire, or maybe a valuable Privateer, or Red-Coats would be better. Why a Man-O-War?
How about ditching UU and have SC (Special Characters) instead. Build King Arthur, Lionheart, Washington or other patriotic characters
Englands could be... well, England? That hasn't been an independent nation since pre-Elezabethan times! UU would need to be old, like Crusade knights.
If it were replaced with Great Britain then the Spitfire, or maybe a valuable Privateer, or Red-Coats would be better. Why a Man-O-War?
How about ditching UU and have SC (Special Characters) instead. Build King Arthur, Lionheart, Washington or other patriotic characters
i think it's been well established that the English UU should be the Longbowman, while other civs have the Crossbowman.
I forgot about China. China in Civ3 is an attempt to cross the Mongols and China. in no way is China militiristic thru the majority f their history, nor should their UU be the Rider. it should probably be the Junk and replace caravel with extra movement. it would actually be useful too, unlike the Man O War.
I forgot about China. China in Civ3 is an attempt to cross the Mongols and China. in no way is China militiristic thru the majority f their history, nor should their UU be the Rider. it should probably be the Junk and replace caravel with extra movement. it would actually be useful too, unlike the Man O War.
I agree that the Longbow is strongly associate with England, I was just saying that it is perhaps not fair to ignore the contribution that Wales did make. It was compulsory in England for every boy practice the use of the longbow, every day! 
Conscript army of Longbowmen is quite a scary prospect.
Conscript army of Longbowmen is quite a scary prospect.
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Sorry, stormbind, but I'm going to be picky at you again!
The problem is that these sceptered Isles have changed name quite often. Britannia under the Romans, then England, Scotland and Wales as separate nations. Then (under the Plantagenets) Wales disappears as a separate nation, absorbed by England.
England was a separate kingdom from Scotland until 1707 (a good century after Elizabeth. Only since then has there been a Great Britain. So if you want to insist on an English (ie pre-Union) UU you could have anything from longbowmen via the Golden Hind through to my own personal favourite, Cromwell's Ironsides or even Marlborough's redcoats.
But Elizabeth united Scotland and England? Surely! Maybe they split up again afterwards, but they were united at that time - which is the earliest time I know of where the two countries were one. Or am I totally mistaken?
Well, I have mentioned longbowmen, golden hind and red coats so we are at least thinking allong the same lines. Best thing used extensively by Cromwell's army could be sabres - best sword ever, and it's English
Edit: If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me what "In Spe Vivo" means?
Well, I have mentioned longbowmen, golden hind and red coats so we are at least thinking allong the same lines. Best thing used extensively by Cromwell's army could be sabres - best sword ever, and it's English
Edit: If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me what "In Spe Vivo" means?
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