Splitting a civ in two

[Ben E Gas]

Is it possible to split a civ into two seperate civs? In other words, if an enemy of mine has about 20 or so cities and if I then take their capital city, is there a possibility that half of his cities will join a newly created civ? I thought I remembered reading that this can be down. What is the probability that it will happen?

Maybe it was in civ2, I can't remember.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Pfeffersack]

No, this is not included in Civ3.But AFAIK since Conquests capturing the capital makes it more likely that single cities culture flip to your civ.

 

[Ben E Gas]

Do you remember if it was in civ2? or am I thinking of a totally different game?

 

[Dignitas]

Yes, this was in Civ II, or at least in Civ I i'm not totally sure in which of those. But it definately was in one of those, and i liked this feature. Hope it will be there in Civ IV.

 

[andy80]

It was definitely in Civ1.

 

[Ben E Gas]

really civ1 and not civ2? I never had the opportunity to play civ1 but I seem to remember it in civ2. I guess I could've just read about it.


I wish they had this in civ3.

 

[Chairman Meow]

If I remember correctly, it is in both Civ 1 and 2.

 

[Pfeffersack]

Definetly in Civ2(maybe in Civ1, too), there are threads in the civ2 forum, for example here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=82378

EDIT: In Civ1, too.See here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=91272

 

[Raio]

I am sure that was in both games, civ1 and civ2

 

[morchuflex]

No, it was only in Civ1.

At least, I saw it severall times in Civ1 and never in Civ2, and I must have played about 1,000 entire games of each.
It would be nice if it was reactivated in Civ3. After all, I see more point in that than in the ability of eliminated Civs to come back from ashes.

 

[Turner]

I used to do it all the time in Civ2, so I know for a fact it was in there. But then, it's been so long since I've played Civ1 and gotten to that point that I don't remember if it's there or not.

I would suggest that since there's threads in both forums about it, it was probably in both Civ1 & 2.

 

[morchuflex]

I find it extremely unlikely that Civ2 contains any feature I never encountered. As unlikely as, say, Pete Sampras learning about a kind of volley he never used in his career.
Unless this feature was only reintroduced in Conflicts, Test of Time or another Civ2 add-on. At least, I'm sure it was not in "vanilla" Civ2. Or if it was, it was strangely implemented to never happen to me in about 1,000 games...
Hope I don't sound ***too*** smug...

 

[Ben E Gas]

no offense morch,

But I do trust what Turner says. Not that I don't trust you saying it never happened to you. That I am sure is true, but it doesn't mean it could never happen. Turner is a reliable source of info here on the boards from what I've seen.

 

[Turner]

I find it extremely unlikely that Civ2 contains any feature I never encountered. As unlikely as, say, Pete Sampras learning about a kind of volley he never used in his career.
Unless this feature was only reintroduced in Conflicts, Test of Time or another Civ2 add-on. At least, I'm sure it was not in "vanilla" Civ2. Or if it was, it was strangely implemented to never happen to me in about 1,000 games...
Hope I don't sound ***too*** smug...

I had Civ2 MultiPlayerGold edition.

 

[Frollo]

I had Civ II vanilla and it happened to me quite a few times.

Although I liked the feature, I did find it kinda strange to see the Russians split off from the Aztecs, or the Romans from the Zulu. (The program just picked a name from the tribes that weren't used in that particular game.)

The civil war idea is good, but the naming system should be revised. I think the new tribe should be named after the biggest rebel city. So if I capture the Roman capital, and some rebel cities split off and Antioch happens to be the biggest of them, there should be two tribes now: the Romans and the Antiochians. My 2 cts.

 

[Ben E Gas]

Well said Frollo. That'd be a great idea for civ4.

 

[OzzyKP]

morchuflex, you have to have an open slot (color) in the game to have the split work in Civ2. So if you start the game with 7 civs, you can't get the split to work. If you wipe out one, then you have a chance of splitting a remaining civ.

 

[Lumas]

Well said Frollo. That'd be a great idea for civ4.

I believe that it would be difficult to impliment into Civ4 if they decide to keep the civ-specific abilities (which, no doubt they will).

 

[Ben E Gas]

True, but maybe they could impliment something that turns the civ specific units into just slave workers for the civ that splits away from the main civ empire.

 

[morchuflex]

morchuflex, you have to have an open slot (color) in the game to have the split work in Civ2. So if you start the game with 7 civs, you can't get the split to work. If you wipe out one, then you have a chance of splitting a remaining civ.

That would explain why I never saw it: I always played against max opponents and my style of play was pacific.
But shouldn't I have seen that happening from AI / AI wars?