Stalingrad

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

FMK, I answered some of your questions. Check your PMs at Apolyton.

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[kobayashi]

Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh:
Alas, I hit a BIG wall yesterday

Whilst I was looking at design tips in order to progress, I decided to look at something I thought was sorta a 'finishing touch'...the sounds. Well, to my utter surprise and dismay I find that the sounds for units are very much tied into their unit slot!!!! That is so dumb, it makes no sense to have that hard-coded into the game!?! So now I have to go back and totally rearrange the units, but first I have to figure which ones are gonna use the same sounds etc.

Shame on you - for not studying kobayshi's tip on unit slots.
http://www.civfanatics.com/Kobyashi/SCENAR~3.shtml

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Originally posted by kobayashi:
Shame on you - for not studying kobayshi's tip on unit slots.
http://www.civfanatics.com/Kobyashi/SCENAR~3.shtml

Good show ol' chap!!!

That is EXACTLY what I needed. All of the conceptual work you have already done! Now, I just gotta sit down w/ pen and paper to do the figuring. That just saved me a TON of time! I read about your Stark Trek scn, I guess every rookie has to experience this huh.

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Wow, what a Royal Pain in the Arse that was!<IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/king.gif" border=0>

It took me a long time, but I finally got them back in working (sounding) order. Now, a few quick adgusments to the rules.txt for the tech tree and units stats and I am back in action. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/pimp.gif" border=0>


I do have one question to you kobayashi. Can you put other 'missles', that is 'destroyed after attacking' units into the 'Extra1-8' slots and have them play their respective 'Extra 1-8' sound rather than 'missle.wav'? Same question for a land unit in the 'Extra 1-8' slots that can 'attack planes'. Will that revert to 'Swordfgt' instead of its defined 'Extra' sound?

BTW, I learned allthat technical jargon right ther from reading your paper kobayashi! Thanks a million!

FMK



[This message has been edited by Field Marshal Klesh (edited April 16, 2001).]

 

[gar13]

hurry up and get done already!! i can't wait to try it!

 

[kobayashi]

Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh:

I do have one question to you kobayashi. Can you put other 'missles', that is 'destroyed after attacking' units into the 'Extra1-8' slots and have them play their respective 'Extra 1-8' sound rather than 'missle.wav'? Same question for a land unit in the 'Extra 1-8' slots that can 'attack planes'. Will that revert to 'Swordfgt' instead of its defined 'Extra' sound?

All wav file you assign to the extra unit slots will overide any default sounds. But you will only have one sound per slot (you know, like planes are supposed to have four sounds)

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Excellent! That wraps that part up then. I agrre with you kobayashi, that this should actually be a scenario maker's first step... Just out of sheer luck I was able to organize my units and sounds such that I didn't really need to sacrifice anything. But that wouldn't always be the case.

 

[xeven_god_of_helsibahr]

DUDE! This scenario sounds awsome! Hows it look? WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BE DONE? Can I paly test it TOO?!? WoW!

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[Field Marshal Klesh]

DUDE! This scenario sounds awsome! Hows it look? WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BE DONE? Can I paly test it TOO?!? WoW!

Man, I've been working on this thing non-stop for the past week and a half or more. But you must remember, this is my first attempt at scenario design. I want to do it right, not just slap one together and send it out. So, in short, the answer to your question is "not for awhile, be patient." <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif" border=0>

[This message has been edited by Field Marshal Klesh (edited April 16, 2001).]

 

[xeven_god_of_helsibahr]

Dude. Can you post a preview of the city type terrain? IT sounds sweet! PRETTY PLEASE!?

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Do I need webspace to post pictures, or can I do it with the options available when making a post? I am unfammiliar with this kind of set-up.

But the terrains are only in 'beta build' right now. I have them, but every one isn't fine tuned like they will be when it comes time to release. Plus, there are a few things (like playing with the terrain2 multi-tile trick that I want to do, but don't have the art for it yet. As it approaces release I may start to reveal more. Just sit back and salivate.

 

[xeven_god_of_helsibahr]

COME ON! Can't you just copy and paste? AND PLEASE DUDE! I AM DYING TO SEE!

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[kobayashi]

there is a 20k size limit to the images you can post (click the 'insert an image in your post' link just below the tool bar). To show anything larger, you need to e-mail it to a moderator and get him to insert it for you.

 

[kobayashi]

Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh:

I'd also like any help you guys can offer when I need it (as I am sure I will). Any nice maps or unit info would be appriciated. I have alot already, but knowledge is key here.

I have found a great WWII site
http://www.onwar.com

which has an extensive map section and a huge forum with over a dozen major threads on stalingrad alone. (too late form my ZWK).
This is an absolute must for every WW2 scenario designer.

Another good gateway I just found is
http://www.cidwebs.com/armorinscale/links.htm

just choose a site from the AFV Reference pull down menu.



[This message has been edited by kobayashi (edited April 18, 2001).]

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Okay I'll share links:

Excellent Soviet Armor site!

Thrid Reich Factbook

Soviet Union Factbook


I'll take a look at those...thanks kobayashi!

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

Mmm.. Tasty links indeed kobayashi.

Here's a hint. The map of Stalingrad Street fighting is approximately the scale of my scenario. Sadly, this will mean scalled down versions of the approaches to the City, the Operation Uranus encirclement, and the Hoth Breakthrough attempt. But, hey its about the streetfighting right?

[This message has been edited by Field Marshal Klesh (edited April 18, 2001).]

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

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Here is a preview of the map that I have made. I know its a small pic, but its 19.9kb.

I have made miles of progress is the last day. Cities have been placed, techs distributed, wonders and improvements in place as well.

And now that the KBOS is running properly I will get some real units out in the field to mix it up.

I have yet to write events because I hadn't the informations as to where to generate units and such, but not that the map is nearing completed form I can begin to conceptualize the events.

I am starting to drool, myself!

FMK

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

Looks like it's moving along well, FMK!

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[xeven_god_of_helsibahr]

DUDE!!! FMK!!! Hurry up!!!!! I AM SALIVATING!!!!!

 

[Field Marshal Klesh]

DISASTER STRIKES!!!


I'm gonna need some help fellas!
I was just doing a little building to Stalingrad, and I saved it as 'Current.scn'. I closed down Civ, started it up again, loaded the scenario.....BAM...illegal operation and Civ shuts down to the desktop! I loaded the older versions of the scenario and even they won't work. I loaded up other scenarios and they work fine, so something is wrong on my end for sure. Any ideas? I hope all is not lost...