Stealth Fighters Anyone?

[Dralix]

First off, thanks to those here who showed me how marines and helicopters can be useful. I now appreciate the value of both, even though I think marines are not as powerful as they were in Civ2.

However, stealth fighters are still a mystery to me. The only times I have built them, it has been followed by "(insert explitive here) stealth fighters can't perform air superiority!"

So if anyone has a use for them, I'd love to hear it ...

Thanks

 

[Tassadar]

i think stealth fighter can be usefull if an a.i. city is defended by jet fighter, then you send S.F. to bomb first unsted of bomber. But i never did that because i dont let a.i grab oil ressource neither aluminium ( i lost to much stealth bomber agaist a.i regular figther).

 

[cracker]

I am in the opinion that stealth fighters are currently worthless because of the way the strengths are implemented.

Their only defense is their stealthiness because they have zero (0) defensive points and as a result have no hit points. The stelath factor works to reduce the probability that they will be engaged by any fighters that may be present but if the stealth fight is engaged it ALWAYS gets detroyed. Even the WWII era propeller fighters shoot them down.

They also lack the ability to priority target the enemies air defenses (either fighters or SAM batteries) and this is actually their primary reason for existing in the first place.

For recon, their range is the same as regular fighters so no advantage their.

For bombardment the bombard strength is so low that they NEVER, read this as absolutely never score a hit on any unit more advanced than riflemen. They can't even blow a road in the open field over 50% of the time.

For the precision strikes, the whole proraming logic works backwards, so they will target only the valuable city improvemnts first and deliberately miss the military targets.

Worthless unit at this point due to lack of strategic thinking by the code developers. (Hey, this sounds like the problem with some of the AI players).

.. more later

 

[CivMonger]

well, they look cool. Personally, I think that the stealth fighter looks better than the stealth bomber. I was looking at the stats for the stealth fighter, and it has half the bombard str, and half the cost. So if you need a air force fast, I guess thats the way to go. If you have large production force, I see absolutely no reason to build them, as they are half as good for half as much.

 

[cracker]

I am in the opinion that stealth fighters are currently worthless because of the way the strengths are implemented.

Their only defense is their stealthiness because they have zero (0) defensive points and as a result have no hit points. The stelath factor works to reduce the probability that they will be engaged by any fighters that may be present but if the stealth fight is engaged it ALWAYS gets detroyed. Even the WWII era propeller fighters shoot them down.

They also lack the ability to priority target the enemies air defenses (either fighters or SAM batteries) and this is actually their primary reason for existing in the first place.

For recon, their range is the same as regular fighters so no advantage their.

For bombardment the bombard strength is so low that they NEVER, read this as absolutely never score a hit on any unit more advanced than riflemen. They can't even blow a road in the open field over 50% of the time.

For the precision strikes, the whole proraming logic works backwards, so they will target only the valuable city improvemnts first and deliberately miss the military targets.

Worthless unit at this point due to lack of strategic thinking by the code developers. (Hey, this sounds like the problem with some of the AI players).

.. more later

 

[warpstorm]

Gotta agree with you on this one. Useless. This will be the first unit to go when I eventually mod this game to taste.

 

[Tassadar]

Do you remember stealth fighter in civ 2, a very powerful units, i was able to kill several ground units with only 1 S.F. But in Civ 3 ( with building defensive bonus = 16) bomber, stealth fighter. stealth bomber, cruise missile( range 2) are useless. In 1.16( defensive bonus = 8) bomber and precision strike are usefull.

i cant beleive it, stealth fighter useless since 1.17