Sweden and Norway [BtS]
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Some suggestions for unique buildings:
Norway:
* Trading Post (original BTS)
* Oil Refinery (Replaces Coal Plant): Electric power, +15% production with Oil
Denmark:
* Hanseatic office (replaces Harbor): +25% tax
* Food processing plant (replaces Supermarket): +25% food with electric power
Norway:
* Trading Post (original BTS)
* Oil Refinery (Replaces Coal Plant): Electric power, +15% production with Oil
Denmark:
* Hanseatic office (replaces Harbor): +25% tax
* Food processing plant (replaces Supermarket): +25% food with electric power
GUSTAVUS II
Chieftain
keep up good work!
I applaud a Scandinavian mod, but as I started reading this thread, having a UU with double strength and movement seemed a bit too powerful. Rather rely on vikings I think.
Norway could have cheaper Hydroplants which could be built in all cities (not only those connected to water) to similate the cheap hydropower. Sweden could have IKEA (should be a wonder really
) being a Supermarked with some hammer bonus. Invgvar Kamprad should be a Great Merchant of course 
Norway could have cheaper Hydroplants which could be built in all cities (not only those connected to water) to similate the cheap hydropower. Sweden could have IKEA (should be a wonder really
) being a Supermarked with some hammer bonus. Invgvar Kamprad should be a Great Merchant of course Jutlander79
Chieftain
Nice to hear that you are going to add Denmark.
Some ideas for the Dane Civ.
UU: Hmm quite tough one.... According to the dane history it should be an naval unit (because they have kicked a lot of poor nations like the Swedes,Netherlands,Hansa and so on
)I have no clue why the danes was a superior naval 
Mabey It was because they built better ship or the dannish naval tradition better naval officers.
Conclusion:
As an UU: Mabey an Frigate with a some veteran points would fit for the danes or a new ship unit (gonna do somne research....)
As a landunit it should probably be the Germanic Legoknecht (mercinaries) (sigh.. more researh :-D)
Special building should be the (Royal Navy Academy,The Oresound toll, Trade company, more research....
Special Civ treats: Financial & (Agressive,Industrious,Creative depending wich Era in the danes history we are talking about)
keep up the great work
Some ideas for the Dane Civ.
UU: Hmm quite tough one.... According to the dane history it should be an naval unit (because they have kicked a lot of poor nations like the Swedes,Netherlands,Hansa and so on
)I have no clue why the danes was a superior naval Mabey It was because they built better ship or the dannish naval tradition better naval officers. Conclusion:
As an UU: Mabey an Frigate with a some veteran points would fit for the danes or a new ship unit (gonna do somne research....)
As a landunit it should probably be the Germanic Legoknecht (mercinaries) (sigh.. more researh :-D)
Special building should be the (Royal Navy Academy,The Oresound toll, Trade company, more research....
Special Civ treats: Financial & (Agressive,Industrious,Creative depending wich Era in the danes history we are talking about)
keep up the great work
Jutlander79
Chieftain
Nice to hear that
But now iam trying to download it it says file not found
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8089I really have to agree on that, Iam not sure what you had in mind then you choosed the UU: for the scandinavian civs the warrior is a to early UU: to be used for the scandinavian civs but why not use the orginal viking and give him one more strength point after all it was in the Viking-medeival age and further to the imperial age that put scandinavia on the map
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Was not Gustav Adolphus (Sp?) Swedish? He was one of the first people do figure the best use of muskets and firepower, what about their UU being a Musketman with Drill I and II to start?
Jutlander79: I haven't reupload the file yet, have to find it on my computer first. 
About the UU I've planned some UU's.
Sweden: Carolean (replaces Musketman) 2 movements, starts with Drill I and Drill II
Norway: Berseker (same as Viking)
Denmark: A frigate/ship of the line Jutlander79 is talking about, don't know what it should be called. Starts with Navigation I and Combat I.
GeneralMatt: Gustav Adolphus was swedish and he is in (as Gustav II Adolf, his swedish name).
Gurra09
About the UU I've planned some UU's.
Sweden: Carolean (replaces Musketman) 2 movements, starts with Drill I and Drill II
Norway: Berseker (same as Viking)
Denmark: A frigate/ship of the line Jutlander79 is talking about, don't know what it should be called. Starts with Navigation I and Combat I.
GeneralMatt: Gustav Adolphus was swedish and he is in (as Gustav II Adolf, his swedish name).
Gurra09
Jutlander79
Chieftain
Unit for Sweden should be the the Carolean with Drill I and II to start (they was fast and offensive)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253895
Unit for Norway should be the Berseker (The Norse vikings invaded after all Normandie, and colonized Iceland,Färoöarna och greenland.
Iam still in to the naval UU: for the danes: Frigate or Ship of the line that starts with Navigation I & Combat I . iam gonna search on civ fanatics Unit Libary http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=227524
Other potencial units for the danes are the Landsknecht that is the special unit for the holy roman empire on BTS or if u use the quite nice special (Royal Cuirassier)unit that are included for the danes in Civ4 Gold
Nice to hear that you are going to add some uniqe units for the scandinavian Civ keep up with the great work
Ps: A tip is to rename the name from Sweden and Norway [BtS] to Scandinavia [BtS] or Sweden,Denmark and Norway [BtS] that would attract also the Danes to this thread
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Jutlander79
Chieftain
Sorry mate, I should have said I agree with GeneralMatt in the Drill I & Drill II part 
Btw nice looking ship u have created, that one may fit perfect for the dane as the (Line Skib)
Btw nice looking ship u have created, that one may fit perfect for the dane as the (Line Skib)
I haven't been able to download the mod yet, but since you said that you haven't yet reuploaded it yet I won't bug you about that. I do however really look forward to playing your mod.
From what I can tell it's very promising and sounds awfully exciting!
Keep up the good work Gurra09!
From what I can tell it's very promising and sounds awfully exciting!
Keep up the good work Gurra09!
Regarding Musketman as UU. Look at the French and Ethiopians. Make sure the Scandinavian one isn't very much better or worse than these.
Orormo Warrior has:
1 First Strike
Immune to First Strikes
Starts with Drill I & II
Musketeer has
2 Movement
Perhaps find something that isn't very much alike.
What about a strength bonus or discount instead?
Still a good iniative
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After looking at Wikipedia, the Caroleans are described as tougher and never retreating.
Since Musketmen are so short-lived, why not give them strength 12? Still they will be
subsituted for Riflemen, but allows you not to rush for Rifling
(It's a bit contrary though, since they "lived" only for about 20 years")
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Another thought:
Give them "Leadership" (+100%Xp from Combat)
This would have to be removed by upgrading, or way too powerful
This promotion is normally only avaiable through a Great General,
but it would be flavour: Fight as much as possible, and never upgrade
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Norwegian UU:
What about a Berserker which gave extra pillaging gold? (+20% for instance)
This would be a very original trait. Scripting needed of course.
Should keep Amphibious, but for not making it stronger than the normal Berserker,
make some penalty.
Orormo Warrior has:
1 First Strike
Immune to First Strikes
Starts with Drill I & II
Musketeer has
2 Movement
Perhaps find something that isn't very much alike.
What about a strength bonus or discount instead?
Still a good iniative
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After looking at Wikipedia, the Caroleans are described as tougher and never retreating.
Since Musketmen are so short-lived, why not give them strength 12? Still they will be
subsituted for Riflemen, but allows you not to rush for Rifling
(It's a bit contrary though, since they "lived" only for about 20 years")
---------------------------------------
Another thought:
Give them "Leadership" (+100%Xp from Combat)
This would have to be removed by upgrading, or way too powerful
This promotion is normally only avaiable through a Great General,
but it would be flavour: Fight as much as possible, and never upgrade
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Norwegian UU:
What about a Berserker which gave extra pillaging gold? (+20% for instance)
This would be a very original trait. Scripting needed of course.
Should keep Amphibious, but for not making it stronger than the normal Berserker,
make some penalty.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Sorry mate, I should have said I agree with GeneralMatt in the Drill I & Drill II part
Btw nice looking ship u have created, that one may fit perfect for the dane as the (Line Skib)
Than you.
What about Drill I, and Flanking I?
Barracks with +25% Military prod is half-way to a Police State! Sweden has never been that agressive!!
And why Guerilla III ???
The Caroleans where not hill-fighters.
Give them rather higher strength, to reflect their way of not retreating.
And why Guerilla III ???
The Caroleans where not hill-fighters.
Give them rather higher strength, to reflect their way of not retreating.
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