Sweden UA broken?

[NickSoapdish]

Just been playing a BNW game as Sweden - chose Honour, got my GG, gifted it to Katmandu and... NOTHING.

GG disappears but I get no influence.

Reloaded, paid a bit more attention - same result. Tried a different CS - same again.

Is it just me? Or am I missing some deliberate rules change??

 

[FeiLing]

Not sure but afaik you have to walk him in their territory and then press the special button. I think you mustn't gift them form anywhere and not via the gift unit command and neither via the gift option when you click the cs like you'd do with normal units.

 

[Browd]

You can gift them from anywhere, but you need to do it through the CS diplo screen (gift unit) rather than from the GG's menu gift command.

EDIT: I decided to test for myself whether BNW is any different, and found that it is. Attached are two save files (Sweden - G&K and Sweden - BNW). In each one I beelined Warrior Code to get the GG and used the CS's diplo screen to gift the GG. Each save is after generating the GG but before making the gift.

In the G&K file, the CS becomes allied immediately when the gift was made (in contradiction to the stated 3-turn delay, but consistent with my G&K experience with Sweden).

In the BNW file, the CS does not become allied until 3 turns later (gift made on turn 24 and allied on turn 27).

 

[NickSoapdish]

I've gifted GP before as Sweden and gotten the CS influence - it's just since BNW that I've seen this issue.

Click on the CS, and then choose 'gift unit' and it then changes the pointer and allows you to choose which unit to give - I click my GG, and it asks if I am sure I want to gift this unit, I say that I do - unit disappears, but no change of influence - since BNW, anyway.

 

[Browd]

See my edited post just above.

 

[DemonMaster]

If you give a CS a unit by walking the unit to them and gifting by right-click menu you will got the 5 influence immediately. If you send the unit by going through the CS diplo-screen, the unit will arrive to the CS three turns later (in which time you can't send them another unit) and the influence effect of the gift will also arrive three turns later.

Gifting GP with Sweden is the same thing. If you walk them to the CS land and gifting them by right click menu you will got the effect immediately, but if you instead gifting them through the diplo-screen, they will arrive three turns later and also the influence effect will be earned three turns later.

This is a change in BNW from G&K. I hope that this change also fixes the disappearing of sent gifted units that happened in G&K.

Edit: Also, why should you get influence over a CS for gifting them units before the units arrive. This way it is much faster and better to gift units to nearby CS where you can walk them, but gifting units to CS far away will be more difficult since you can only have one such unit "transporting" at the time.

 

[NickSoapdish]

Browd - thanks for clearing that up, I appreciate it.

 

[Zaimejs]

I am so angry. Just f***ing wasted a great prophet... time to reload. Stupidest thing ever. Why wouldn't they make it just so you gift the unit... stupid stupid stupid. Mechanic.

 

[reddishrecue]

When I used the gp gifting it worked. I went to the cs screen and chose gift unit. When the mouse turned into a gift, I chose the gp. I waited the turns it took for the gp to get there (it usually is 2-3 turns and it tells you when you mouseover the cs menu) and then I got the 90cs points.