TC Thursday Oct 30th 6 AM GMT

[1889]

If the Aretian Democratic Party is elected as the next PF I intend to play a short turn set Wednesday 29th at 10PM for me in Alaska (a.k.a. Thursday 30th 6 AM GMT). If we are not elected I hope this thread will be a convenient launching point for the next PF’s TC.

The main purpose of this TC will be to establish our new civics by researching Democracy and playing through 2 turns of anarchy.

By putting espionage back to zero and raising science to 70% we can research Democracy in two turns.

Our current civics are: representation, free speech, caste system, free market, and organized religion. Although it doesn’t make a great deal of difference we will switch to universal suffrage to remain in character. Castes system is creating a great deal of unhappiness so I think we need to adopt emancipation. Organized religion is doing us little good for all that it costs. I think free Religion would be much more useful for us.

Aside from that I’d like to continue the military buildup for the invasion and conquest of Khmer in the East.

What do you think?

 

[1889]

Here is a screenshot of our current civics as well as the most recent save.

EDIT: Turns out I can not attach the save again but here is a link to were you can find it. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=294432 The save is at the bottom of post #3.

 

[Furiey]

To add to the past confusion of time zones, the UK has now finished Daylight Saving so is back on GMT. The US is still on Daylight Saving, so for this week only, Eastern Time is 4 hours behind UK time. Next week it will be back to 5 hours behind when the US reverts to standard time.

 

[DaveShack]

Will this be online?

 

[1889]

Were not sure yet who the prime faction will be yet so this TC is not certain. If it is me though I'll try to make it an online session. Be warned, I'm a bit of a micromanager so it may take a while even to play just 4 or 5 turns.

 

[dutchfire]

I had a look at the save, and I see two potential plans to win this game.

1) Space Race, simple, boring, keep building a little bit of military for defence, research refrigeration for the health, Radio for the wonders, and then keep researching and start building space ship parts till we win. We can trade Democracy + 195 gold with Justinian for Economics and Military Tradition. Augustus, Churchill and Gandhi are our rivals, but Gandhi and Augustus only have a small empire. We should probably revolt to Universal Suffrage, Emancipation, Free Religion. We might even be tempted to give away Port Civius (Why the hell did we found that anyway?)

2) WAR! I noticed that our main opponents (Augustus, Churchill, Gandhi) have a grand total of 0 landlocked cities! We can adopt Vassalage, Police State, Emancipation and Theocracy, research Flight and Radio, build carriers, fighters, later on bombers and of course marines and transports, and attack them. I'd be tempted to attack Gandhi first, we can take his cities with carrier groups and marines. Most of his cities are defended by like 4 redcoats, who will be toast against our superior forces. Don't forget to use spies to bring down city defenses.

We can then attack Augustus. 2 of his 3 cities are within reach of continent-based bombers, so attacking him will be even easier when we have bombers. We could then continue a partial land partial invasion war with Justinian (we'd probably have to research the techs for mech inf or modern armor first), or we could decided to pull the marine trick on Churchill.

This way, we could win by domination, which would be cool IMO.

(By the way, has anyone noticed this is the second time Montezuma and Tokugawa have been locked up on a continent of themselves in the Demogame?)

 

[1889]

I had a look at the save, and I see two potential plans to win this game.

1) Space Race, simple, boring...

Ya, definitely domination win for me. I was planning to invade Tokugawa first then Montezuma because they are so behind in techs, but I think you're right right, Gandhi may be a better first choice. He has the best economy out of the remaining AI's and so is really our biggest threat. And while he has the technology to build dangerous units his 4 coastal cities (none of which are on hills) are defended by about three redcoats each. We aught to be able to take him out quickly and then be in an even better position to conquer our next target.

 

[dutchfire]

Montezuma will probably have LOADS of units as well, better to take a douche like Gandhi

 

[1889]

LOL So true, so true.

 

[1889]

One hour 'till game time, any last requests?

 

[1889]

Ok, I'm logged into the chat room, but as usual it doesn't seem to be working. No matter, game on!

 

[1889]

1856
Begin Democracy

1858
Finish Broadway
Montezuma declares war on Churchil
Justin declares war on Monty.

1860
Finish Pentagon
Mining Inc spread to Babylon
Finish Democracy
Anarchy begins

1862
Mining Inc spread to Port Civius
Load ships for assault onLondon

1864
Anarchy over
Some invasion transports loaded

Spoiler Autolog :

Turn 298/500 (1856 AD) [30-Oct-2008 05:51:01]
Research begun: Democracy (3 Turns)
New Giruvegan finishes: Marine
Edorai finishes: Tank
Kassite finishes: Jail
Madrid finishes: Marine
Santiago finishes: Factory
A Hamlet was built near Santiago
A Hamlet was built near Santiago
Cordoba finishes: Mining Inc Executive
A Town was built near Santiago
Babylon finishes: Broadway
Seidrik grows: 15
Borsippa finishes: Airship
Mari finishes: Marine
Eshnunna finishes: Drydock
Montezuma(Arabia) declares war on Churchill(Vikings)
Justinian I(Maya) declares war on Montezuma(Arabia)
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Arabia) towards Justinian I(Maya), from 'Cautious' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Arabia) towards Churchill(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Justinian I(Maya) towards Montezuma(Arabia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Churchill(Vikings) towards Montezuma(Arabia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Churchill(Vikings) towards Justinian I(Maya), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 299/500 (1858 AD) [30-Oct-2008 06:01:12]
New Giruvegan begins: Marine (2 turns)
Edorai begins: Marine (2 turns)
Kassite begins: Airship (7 turns)
Madrid begins: Mining Inc Executive (2 turns)
Santiago begins: Airship (4 turns)
Cordoba begins: Transport (2 turns)
Borsippa begins: Airship (5 turns)
Mari begins: Marine (4 turns)
Eshnunna begins: Transport (4 turns)
Eshnunna begins: Factory (8 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Harker Park
Madrid begins: Marine (2 turns)
Tech learned: Democracy
New Giruvegan finishes: Marine
Barcelona finishes: The Pentagon
Cordoba finishes: Transport
Harker Park grows: 3
Attitude Change: Churchill(Vikings) towards Montezuma(Arabia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(England) towards Justinian I(Maya), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 300/500 (1860 AD) [30-Oct-2008 06:18:53]
Research begun: Flight (2 Turns)
New Giruvegan begins: Marine (2 turns)
Cordoba begins: Transport (2 turns)
Cordoba begins: Marine (161 turns)
Cordoba begins: Battleship (226 turns)
State Religion Change: Antimedius(Arete) from 'Hinduism' to 'no State Religion'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Arabia) towards Antimedius(Arete), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(England) towards Antimedius(Arete), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Antimedius(Arete) from 'Representation' to 'Universal Suffrage'
Civics Change: Antimedius(Arete) from 'Caste System' to 'Emancipation'
Civics Change: Antimedius(Arete) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Free Religion'

Turn 301/500 (1862 AD) [30-Oct-2008 06:37:57]
A Lumbermill was built near Mari
A Lumbermill was built near Warfire
A Forest Preserve was built near Opis
A Forest Preserve was built

Turn 302/500 (1864 AD) [30-Oct-2008 06:59:12]
A Mine was built near Mari
A Lumbermill was built near Harker Park

Who wants to play the next TC and when?

 

[Furiey]

Lots of wars breaking out - nice! Something we can take advantage of.

Looks like there was a netsplit in the chatroom.

Sorry, I can't play the next one - can't run BTS

 

[dutchfire]

Are we ready to strike?

 

[1889]

Couldn't get all the infantry in the boats but we'll be ready next turn to strike York and London.

 

[1889]

Here is a little world builder scenario for those of you who want to practice the invasion. The invasion fleet is a bit larger than we actually have just so you can try different combinations. Looks like the odds for each attack are at about 70% so casualties should be pretty low.

 

[thecommonnate]

Great TC, I think we are ready for a war.

 

[1889]

Who wants to play the next TC and when?

No takers? Well then I will play Monday night, which is Tuesday morning GMT.

 

[DaveShack]

That wasn't much delay between asking who and saying no takers...

 

[dutchfire]

Is that a "I want to play it" comment?