Teaser ...

[Rik Meleet]

Here's a teaser:

 

[peter grimes]

Is this a screenshot of our opening turn?

 

[RegentMan]

Yes it is.

 

[ybbor]

Is this a screenshot of our opening turn?

no; it's a screenshot of your mom

Talk about a Teaser! i have no idea where to settle. 'm thinking where we are, but if we move to the Ivory we get a whale... (but loose floodplains) I say we settle where we are.

 

[peter grimes]

I was thinking the whale would be better - thinking ahead a little, it will generate much more trade than we'd lose from the floodplain. Yes, I think it's worth taking the turn to move to ivory.

 

[ybbor]

I was thinking the whale would be better - thinking ahead a little, it will generate much more trade than we'd lose from the floodplain. Yes, I think it's worth taking the turn to move to ivory.

no, the whale is one square, but we can get more food from the floodplains, and we get alter them much easier than we can the whale

EDIT: I'm getting nervous...did we get such a great start position to make up for 100 tiles of desert in every other direction? or 1 horse and a urnanium as our only resources? I'm getting nervous...

I can just see them now...
GA:You know who i hate?
RM: who?
GA:team 3
RM: yeah!
GA & RM: hey R_M, amke the map so MIA thinks they're getting a good map, but let's really give them a 20 tile island half full of desert!
R_M:Yeah! okay, here you go

You're a bad, bad man

 

[peter grimes]

i'm sticking with the trade benefit. However, it comes at the high cost of 'wasting' the first turn.

 

[Black_Hole]

Keep the starting spot, we don't need to waste our first turn on this good of a start
However, I am not sure what to work first...
But we should take advantage and pump settlers...

 

[peter grimes]

I thought it was a dynamite starting spot as well, but I figured that the odds of us being the only team to get a good spot aren't that great. Settler factory is good, as long as we explore the coast soon.

 

[Spud Boy]

I think we should build our first city in the current spot.

We ought to build a road to the ivory ASAP.

 

[azzaman333]

Build first city on spot, cause we dont want too much water in our start city. If we move on the ivory then we have 8 (i think) coastal tiles in our capital.

 

[Fallensmith]

Woah! Are we on a Gold Hill or am I seeing things? If we are it hurts to waste it with Capital commerce. Maybe eat the Whale? The other hill isn't coastal so that won't work...

 

[GenMarshall]

We should settle right there. We are close by a cattle resource bonus tile and a lux .

 

[fe3333au]

Pity about the gold hill ... but 1 turn is big in this game ... settle where we stand ...
anyway it's pretty cool to be living on top of a reef of gold

 

[Meleager]

Settle where we are.

Put a mine on the cow first. That way we save worker moves (i.e. the next square to work is right next door) and we have a good square to get stuff from.

We can link up the ivory after the other 2 squares are built up without any problem. After all, at that point of the game we wont have many citizens so we wont need it striaght away.

Its much more important to get the food and sheilds rolling in then to get luxuries, IMHO.

 

[classical_hero]

I am drooling at the start that we have got. That is such a great start. But if we were to move to the forest, so that could get the whale. There is another option of moving onto the ivory. This will also get us that whale. It would be such a waste if we were to settle on the gold. We will be losing a great commerse bonus. It is a crying shame that SoZ does not require Ivory.

There are only three real options that we can take.
1)We settle right where we are.
2)we settle one tile to the east.
3)we settle one tile to the south east.

As much as I would like to move, the risk of doing that is not worth the potential gains from the move. I believe that we should settle where we are.

 

[Rik Meleet]

(..)It would be such a waste if we were to settle on the gold. We will be losing a great commerse bonus. (..)

There seems to be a misperception that commerce is lost by settling on a gold hill. You can always recreate your starting position in an editor and test this and all other settling locations to find the best location for your city for your play-style. You have sufficient time for this.

 

[classical_hero]

Our starting position is very good. The main problem is, that there is more than one good starting position for our capital. We will also lose the ability to mine the hill, whereas if we were to build our city on the forest, we will not be losing to much. It is a shame that the gold was not on the other hill. It is a very good commerce start. The fact that we start off with a lux makes it even better.

BTW Rik, I am not bagging the map. It is just part of the discussion to as much as possible from such a good position.

 

[Rik Meleet]

All I am saying is give peace a chance is to recreate the starting location in the editor and test-play. That way you can find the best location for the team's style of play.

 

[peter grimes]

I like Rik's suggestion. However, I'm not able to be the one to try this (version dysfunction). Anyone want to have a go at it?