Term 5 ~ Financial Charges Consortium

[blackheart]

The Financial Charges Consortium (FCC) office is made for any request that relates to the national treasury.

Yes, the FCC office is located within the CIA HQ/ Zarnia Capitol
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When requesting rushes, please list:
1) what is being rushed
2) what city it is in
3) how many turns is being saved by rushing
4) the cost of rushing
5) reason for rushing

When requesting international aid allocation, please list:
1) Country receiving
2) how much
3) why are we giving it to them

When request unit upgrades, please list:
1) which type of unit
2) how many of that type
3) why it needs upgrading
4) (possibly) where is it stationed, danger zone or not?

Only discuss monetary matters here! Everything Domestic belongs in the CIA Thread!

 

[blackheart]

900 gold is currently reserved for the Foreign Aid Fund.

Discussions about foreign aid being held here.

 

[Ashburnham]

I would like to request a rush for the Temple being built in Coal City (also known as TBD(Kyoto)). It sits in the middle of Atarashika utterly surrounded by Chinese and Russian culture and needs to be reinforced. We would save 23 Turns at a cost of 92 gold.

 

[blackheart]

I would like to request a rush for the Temple being built in Coal City (also known as TBD(Kyoto)). It sits in the middle of Atarashika utterly surrounded by Chinese and Russian culture and needs to be reinforced. We would save 23 Turns at a cost of 92 gold.

Approved <insert stamp of approval here>

 

[Chieftess]

I request the following rush: Oil Springs: Library (on turn 2 - Around 250g).

 

[blackheart]

I request the following rush: Oil Springs: Library (on turn 2 - Around 250g).

Denied, this would cost more than 250g. Library would take 40 turns, and would cost more than 250g (I think).

 

[Provolution]

Honorable Minister Blackheart.

I thank you for a good cooperation in discussing and polling upgrades, and are about to wrap up the final upgrades for the entire term. There will be no naval upgrades, no air upgrades or armor upgrades.

When request unit upgrades, please list:
1) which type of unit
2) how many of that type
3) why it needs upgrading
4) (possibly) where is it stationed, danger zone or not?

MSAV REQUEST FOR UPGRADES

CIA UPGRADE POLL HAS SHOWN 3200 GOLD AS THE BUDGETARY FRAMEWORK
VARIOUS MSAV POLLS HAS PINPOINTED NEEDS TO BE TIED AT 3100 (INFANTRY AND ARTILLERY UPGRADE) AND 3260 (TOTAL UPGRADE). STRICTLY FOLLOWING THE WOTP, AND FOLLOWING BOTH POLLS TO THE LETTER MSAV REQUEST THE FOLLOWING UPGRADES:

36 MUSKETMEN TO INFANTRY (36X60) 2160
3 VETERAN RIFLEMEN TO INFANTRY (3X20) 60G
11 CANNONS TO ARTILLERY (11X80) 880 G
5 VETERAN SAMURAIS TO CAVALRY (5X20) 100 G

TOTAL SUM :3200 GOLD

3. IT IS NEEDED BASED ON CONSTITUTIONAL PROCEDURES FOR POLLING MINISTERIAL ACTIONS AND DUE TO JAPANATICAN SECURITY NEEDS.

4. ALL UNITS ARE STATIONED WITHIN JAPANATICA, AND WE ARE NOT AT WAR.

Yours sincerely
MSAV
Chief of Staff

 

[Nobody]

Hi,

I would like to request 286gold, for investigations. The citys to be investigated are Sverdlousk for 78gold, Lahore for 118 gold and Punjab for 90 gold. This will only need to be done if we go to war, (decide to hold the city, because after the declaration the ambassordor will be home)

 

[MOTH]

Honorable Minister,
Itakaji's governor has not yet shown up, so as a citizen I would like to request that you investigate and poll for infrastructure rush requests for this province. I have requested that the President appoint me as deputy so that build queues can be ordered. I have also started a citizen's discussion thread on these builds and rushes.

Rush requests (every other turn when we have some shields in the bank). Short rushes may work in some of these rushes on turn 1 and later. DP has discretion to delay some rushes where a short rush will complete the build within 2 turns:

Turn 0: Aquaduct in Ominato (144G, save 4 turns with growth immediately); Factory in Wakashio (660G, saves 10 turns)
Turn 1: Factory in Baldur's Gate (saves 12 turns; short rush via Uni?); Factory in Roma (saves 7 turns; short rush via Uni?); Factory in Yatta (saves 10 turns)
Turn 2: Factory in Port Solema (saves 22 turns); Harbor in Ominato; Library in Wakashio
Turn 3: University in Baldur's Gate; University in Roma; Library in Yatta
Turn 4: Market in Port Solema; Market in Ominato; University in Wakashio
Turn 5: University in Yatta
Turn 6: Library in Port Solema; Library in Ominato

Costs: Factories will cost about 900 Gold each (4400G total), but will pay themselves off due to faster production on other improvements. The factories (and the one Aquaduct) are the minimum as a citizen I would accept.

I'm not able to provide estimates on the costs of things after the factories are built as that math is too hard for me right now.

OOC: in my personal games I would spend nearly all my cash rushing these improvements every other turn.

 

[blackheart]

Hi,

I would like to request 286gold, for investigations. The citys to be investigated are Sverdlousk for 78gold, Lahore for 118 gold and Punjab for 90 gold. This will only need to be done if we go to war, (decide to hold the city, because after the declaration the ambassordor will be home)

Request approved <insert official stamp here>

 

[blackheart]

Honorable Minister,
Itakaji's governor has not yet shown up, so as a citizen I would like to request that you investigate and poll for infrastructure rush requests for this province. I have requested that the President appoint me as deputy so that build queues can be ordered. I have also started a citizen's discussion thread on these builds and rushes.

Rush requests (every other turn when we have some shields in the bank). Short rushes may work in some of these rushes on turn 1 and later. DP has discretion to delay some rushes where a short rush will complete the build within 2 turns:

Turn 0: Aquaduct in Ominato (144G, save 4 turns with growth immediately); Factory in Wakashio (660G, saves 10 turns)
Turn 1: Factory in Baldur's Gate (saves 12 turns; short rush via Uni?); Factory in Roma (saves 7 turns; short rush via Uni?); Factory in Yatta (saves 10 turns)
Turn 2: Factory in Port Solema (saves 22 turns); Harbor in Ominato; Library in Wakashio
Turn 3: University in Baldur's Gate; University in Roma; Library in Yatta
Turn 4: Market in Port Solema; Market in Ominato; University in Wakashio
Turn 5: University in Yatta
Turn 6: Library in Port Solema; Library in Ominato

Costs: Factories will cost about 900 Gold each (4400G total), but will pay themselves off due to faster production on other improvements. The factories (and the one Aquaduct) are the minimum as a citizen I would accept.

I'm not able to provide estimates on the costs of things after the factories are built as that math is too hard for me right now.

OOC: in my personal games I would spend nearly all my cash rushing these improvements every other turn.

Aqueduct for 144g in Ominato approved. Could you list prices and turns for markets, universities, and libraries? As for factories, 4400 g is a little steep so all of them will not be rushed, only the ones that are likely to become high producing cities, so could you list which will too (become high production cities)?

 

[Provolution]

Governor Blackheart

Are you going to accept or reject the MSAV request, based on the joint polls?

 

[MOTH]

Minister Blackheart,
Does your approved stamp (or disapproval) mean that you will poll on a subject? I disagree with at least one of your approvals and one of your disapprovals and would like to see them polled.

 

[MOTH]

Aqueduct for 144g in Ominato approved. Could you list prices and turns for markets, universities, and libraries? As for factories, 4400 g is a little steep so all of them will not be rushed, only the ones that are likely to become high producing cities, so could you list which will too (become high production cities)?

As for the factories, each of the cities listed are already highly productive cities with current raw SPT of 15-20+. Port Solema is the only exception here in that it needs to grow 3-4 more population before it could work all of its hills and mines.

As for the prices and turns - these are estimates based on population growth and increased production due to factories:
2 Markets - 100sheilds base:320 and 376g, 5 and 12 turn savings
4 Libraries - 80 sh base: 200-288g, 4-10 turns savings
1 Harbor - 80 sh base: 288g, 10 turns savings
4 Universities - 200 sh base: 600-700 each, 6-8 turns savings

Of these requests the factories are most important as they produce immediate savings on future rushes. Second most important are the rushes for Ominato as it will have plenty of commerce, but not much production, so the gold outlay will be repayed with increaded science research.

 

[blackheart]

Governor Blackheart

Are you going to accept or reject the MSAV request, based on the joint polls?

It has already been decided since the last TC, 3200 g will be allocated for military upgrades, and since no one had posted about repolling or changing the ammount, it stays.

 

[blackheart]

Minister Blackheart,
Does your approved stamp (or disapproval) mean that you will poll on a subject? I disagree with at least one of your approvals and one of your disapprovals and would like to see them polled.

Stamp of approval means no poll needed since the ammount is not large enough to poll. Which approvals/disapprovals do you want to be polled?

 

[blackheart]

As for the factories, each of the cities listed are already highly productive cities with current raw SPT of 15-20+. Port Solema is the only exception here in that it needs to grow 3-4 more population before it could work all of its hills and mines.

As for the prices and turns - these are estimates based on population growth and increased production due to factories:
2 Markets - 100sheilds base:320 and 376g, 5 and 12 turn savings
4 Libraries - 80 sh base: 200-288g, 4-10 turns savings
1 Harbor - 80 sh base: 288g, 10 turns savings
4 Universities - 200 sh base: 600-700 each, 6-8 turns savings

Of these requests the factories are most important as they produce immediate savings on future rushes. Second most important are the rushes for Ominato as it will have plenty of commerce, but not much production, so the gold outlay will be repayed with increaded science research.

My my, this is indeed a lot of requests! . Here's what I'll do, Acting Governor (?) MOTH, you will have 2000 g on rushes to spend for the next TC, so please submit which things you want rushed, or, if you prefer, we will poll these options and see what people want.

 

[MOTH]

Stamp of approval means no poll needed since the ammount is not large enough to poll. Which approvals/disapprovals do you want to be polled?

On that you denied was for a prior turn-chat, so I won't bring that up. The one that you approved is for the investigation of cities. Its not that I specifically disagree, but instead feel that there should at least be some discussion on the matter as I don't know what benefit we will get by these investigations.

 

[MOTH]

My my, this is indeed a lot of requests! . Here's what I'll do, Acting Governor (?) MOTH, you will have 2000 g on rushes to spend for the next TC, so please submit which things you want rushed, or, if you prefer, we will poll these options and see what people want.

I'm just a concerned citizen at this point trying to fill a gap According to the constitution I have no direct authority in this or any matter.

Ask for the sky and negotiate from there is my motto. What good is all the money if we don't spend it. The minimum I think we should spend is for the Aquaduct and 4 Factory rushes (Yatta, Roma, Wakahio, and Baldur's Gate). This is about 3700G so I guess we should poll this.

If you prefer we could do a big multi-option poll for which rushes people approve of. I could set this up with your blessing (and authority) if you would like (I would post the suggested poll here first).

 

[blackheart]

I'm just a concerned citizen at this point trying to fill a gap According to the constitution I have no direct authority in this or any matter.

Ask for the sky and negotiate from there is my motto. What good is all the money if we don't spend it. The minimum I think we should spend is for the Aquaduct and 4 Factory rushes (Yatta, Roma, Wakahio, and Baldur's Gate). This is about 3700G so I guess we should poll this.

If you prefer we could do a big multi-option poll for which rushes people approve of. I could set this up with your blessing (and authority) if you would like (I would post the suggested poll here first).

Ok, you can set up the suggested poll with the authority of the FCC and CIA. I would be happy to approve most of the other rushes, but with war on the horizon and a lot of our income going out the door, I am hesitant to rush factories.