jorde
Leaderhead Engineering
stgelven said:
And if you find a way to doing that, please tell me, as I have this same problem with a leaderhead I'm creating
The American Continent Mod (ACM)
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And if you find a way to doing that, please tell me, as I have this same problem with a leaderhead I'm creating
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jorde said:
What leaderhead are u creating? If it is a leader from your country or Americas, maybe it can be added in ACM in futures version
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Lets see Civarmy:
Haida Traits:
Militaristic(They were skilled raiders and even had wore armor and welded bronze weapons, which sets them above most other NA tribes)
Seafaring: (They are comparable to the Vikings in their skills at boat-building and seafaring)
Cities:
Ninstints
Masset
Kiusta
Skidegate
Kung
Yan
Kayung
Masset
Hiellan
Cha'atl
Haina
Kaisun
Cumshewa
Skedans
Tanu
Skungwai
Klinkwan
Sukkwan
Howkan
Kasaan
Haida Traits:
Militaristic(They were skilled raiders and even had wore armor and welded bronze weapons, which sets them above most other NA tribes)
Seafaring: (They are comparable to the Vikings in their skills at boat-building and seafaring)
Cities:
Ninstints
Masset
Kiusta
Skidegate
Kung
Yan
Kayung
Masset
Hiellan
Cha'atl
Haina
Kaisun
Cumshewa
Skedans
Tanu
Skungwai
Klinkwan
Sukkwan
Howkan
Kasaan
Gogf
Indescribable
I will definately play this once it is out!
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Sword_Of_Geddon said:
I suggest add Dadens and Yaku to this list.
Do u have leaders lists and great leader name? His title coulc be chief.
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Gogf said:
thanks for the support!
do not forget to post your suggestions
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Lets see....
Leader Name: Chief Koyah
Military Leaders:
Chief Wiah
Chief Ninsingwas
Chief Skidgate
Scientific Leaders:
Chief Gold
Chief Skowl
Leader Name: Chief Koyah
Military Leaders:
Chief Wiah
Chief Ninsingwas
Chief Skidgate
Scientific Leaders:
Chief Gold
Chief Skowl
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Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Missing infos to Haida:
- Bonuses in PTW and Vanilla (one is Militaristic, but the another?). Not necessary the bonuese that we choice to this civilization will be used in ACM, because we have to balance as ones
- Favourite and shunned government type
- Agression level
- Civilopedia text to the Civ, leader and UU.
- Power of Galley Haida. maybe we can find a name into Haida to give to this unit
Sword, tell me what infos you do not have yet, so I can search for or ask help to StGelven (he want help us with data and he is helping me a lot of with datas of Neanderthal scenario).
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Missing infos to Haida:
- Bonuses in PTW and Vanilla (Militaristic and Industrious). The Haida also had the largest number of Totem poles in the North Americas, plus they were unparreled Canoe builders(and later "Galley" builders), to own a Haida-Made Canoe was considered good luck by other tribes.
- Favourite and shunned government type: Feudalism(The Haida consisted of numerious smaller tribal groups which governed themselves. They were united culturially however), for Vanilla this could be Democracy. And Communism/Fascism(Either could be the shunned government)
- Agression level: I'd say 4. The Haida were feared warriors for a reason, they raided for resources, food, and even slaves. Not peaceful.
- Civilopedia text to the Civ, leader and UU:
Not sure about the leader, but:
#RACE_HAIDA
^The Haida are $LINK<militaristic and seafaring=GCON_Strengths>. They start the game with $LINK<warrior code=TECH_Warrior_Code> and $LINK<alphabet=TECH_Alphabet> and build $LINK<Haida Galleys=PRTO_Haida_Galley> instead of normal Galleys.
^
^The Haida are widely considered to have the most highly developed culture and sophisticated art tradition of British Columbia's aboriginal peoples. Extending from the Haida Gwaii (Queen Charlotte Islands) to south Alaska, their lands included major stands of red cedar, the raw material for their huge dugout canoes , intricate carvings and refined architecture . Haida trade links were built on the reputation of their skill - other BC peoples considering the ownership of a Haida canoe, for example, as a major status symbol. Renowned as traders and artists, the Haida were also feared warriors , paddling into rival villages and returning with canoes laden with goods, slaves and the severed heads of anyone who had tried to resist. Their skill on the open sea has seen them labelled the "Vikings" of northern America. This success at warfare was due, in part, to their use of wooden slat armour,
which included a protective face visor and helmets topped with terrifying images.
^Socially the Haida divided themselves into two main groups, the Eagles and the Ravens , which were further divided into hereditary kin groups named after their original village location. Marriage within each major group - or moiety - was considered incestuous, so Eagles would always seek Raven mates and vice versa. Furthermore, descent was traced through the female line , which meant that a chief could not pass his property onto his sons because they would belong to a different moiety - instead his inheritance passed to his sister's sons. Equally, young men might have to leave their childhood village to claim their inheritance from their maternal uncles.
^Haida villages were an impressive sight, their vast cedar-plank houses dominated by fifteen-metre totem poles displaying the kin group's unique animal crest or other mythical creatures, all carved in elegantly fluid lines. Entrance to each house was through the gaping mouth of a massive carved figure; inside, supporting posts were carved into the forms of the crest animals and most household objects were similarly decorative. Equal elaboration attended the many Haida ceremonies, one of the most important of which was the mortuary potlatch , serving as a memorial service to a dead chief and the validation of the heir's right to succession. The dead individual was laid out at the top of a carved pole near the village entrance, past which the visiting chiefs would walk wearing robes of finely woven and patterned mountain-goat wool and immense headdresses fringed with long sea-lion whiskers and ermine skins.
A hollow at the top of each headdress was filled with eagle feathers, which floated down onto the witneses as the chiefs sedately danced.
#DESC_RACE_HAIDA
^
^After European contact the Haida population was devastated by smallpox and other epidemics. In 1787, there were around 8000 Haida scattered across the archipelago. Their numbers were then reduced from around 6000 in 1835 to 588 by 1915. Consequently they were forced to abandon their traditional villages and today gather largely at two sites, Old Masset (pop. 650) and Skidegate (Haida pop. 550). At other locations the homes and totems fell into disrepair, and only at Sgan Gwaii , a remote village at the southern tip of the Queen Charlottes, has an attempt been made to preserve an original Haida settlement; it has now been declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO.
^These days the Haida number around 2000, and are highly regarded in the North American art world; Bill Reid, Freda Diesing and Robert Davidson are amongst the best-known figures, and scores of other Haida craftspeople produce a mass of carvings and jewellery for the tourist market. They also play a powerful role in the islands' social, political and cultural life, having been vocal in the formation of sites such as the Gwaii Haanas National Park Reserve , South Moresby's Haida Heritage Site and Duu Guusd Tribal Park , the last established to protect old aboriginal villages on Graham Island's northwest coast.
For the Haida "Galley":
PRTO_Haida_Galley
^
^
^The Haida Galley is a strong and fast replacement for the Galley in the Haida's early navy. It receives one extra movement point, as well as one extra attack point.
DESC_PRTO_Haida_Galley
^
^
^The Haida were entering the Bronze Age when Europeans arrived in the New World. Before seeing European ships off their coast, the Haida largely used large, well-made Canoes for their raiding and sea transportation. However, seeing the large sailing craft of the Europeans inspired them to create their own sailing ship. The result was a vessel remarkably similiar to the Galleys used by the Ancient Greeks. The ship was expertly made in the Haida style, and sporting beautifully decorated sails. This ship was another reason why the Haida earned the nickname, "the Vikings of North America".
- Bonuses in PTW and Vanilla (Militaristic and Industrious). The Haida also had the largest number of Totem poles in the North Americas, plus they were unparreled Canoe builders(and later "Galley" builders), to own a Haida-Made Canoe was considered good luck by other tribes.
- Favourite and shunned government type: Feudalism(The Haida consisted of numerious smaller tribal groups which governed themselves. They were united culturially however), for Vanilla this could be Democracy. And Communism/Fascism(Either could be the shunned government)
- Agression level: I'd say 4. The Haida were feared warriors for a reason, they raided for resources, food, and even slaves. Not peaceful.
- Civilopedia text to the Civ, leader and UU:
Not sure about the leader, but:
#RACE_HAIDA
^The Haida are $LINK<militaristic and seafaring=GCON_Strengths>. They start the game with $LINK<warrior code=TECH_Warrior_Code> and $LINK<alphabet=TECH_Alphabet> and build $LINK<Haida Galleys=PRTO_Haida_Galley> instead of normal Galleys.
^
^The Haida are widely considered to have the most highly developed culture and sophisticated art tradition of British Columbia's aboriginal peoples. Extending from the Haida Gwaii (Queen Charlotte Islands) to south Alaska, their lands included major stands of red cedar, the raw material for their huge dugout canoes , intricate carvings and refined architecture . Haida trade links were built on the reputation of their skill - other BC peoples considering the ownership of a Haida canoe, for example, as a major status symbol. Renowned as traders and artists, the Haida were also feared warriors , paddling into rival villages and returning with canoes laden with goods, slaves and the severed heads of anyone who had tried to resist. Their skill on the open sea has seen them labelled the "Vikings" of northern America. This success at warfare was due, in part, to their use of wooden slat armour,
which included a protective face visor and helmets topped with terrifying images.
^Socially the Haida divided themselves into two main groups, the Eagles and the Ravens , which were further divided into hereditary kin groups named after their original village location. Marriage within each major group - or moiety - was considered incestuous, so Eagles would always seek Raven mates and vice versa. Furthermore, descent was traced through the female line , which meant that a chief could not pass his property onto his sons because they would belong to a different moiety - instead his inheritance passed to his sister's sons. Equally, young men might have to leave their childhood village to claim their inheritance from their maternal uncles.
^Haida villages were an impressive sight, their vast cedar-plank houses dominated by fifteen-metre totem poles displaying the kin group's unique animal crest or other mythical creatures, all carved in elegantly fluid lines. Entrance to each house was through the gaping mouth of a massive carved figure; inside, supporting posts were carved into the forms of the crest animals and most household objects were similarly decorative. Equal elaboration attended the many Haida ceremonies, one of the most important of which was the mortuary potlatch , serving as a memorial service to a dead chief and the validation of the heir's right to succession. The dead individual was laid out at the top of a carved pole near the village entrance, past which the visiting chiefs would walk wearing robes of finely woven and patterned mountain-goat wool and immense headdresses fringed with long sea-lion whiskers and ermine skins.
A hollow at the top of each headdress was filled with eagle feathers, which floated down onto the witneses as the chiefs sedately danced.
#DESC_RACE_HAIDA
^
^After European contact the Haida population was devastated by smallpox and other epidemics. In 1787, there were around 8000 Haida scattered across the archipelago. Their numbers were then reduced from around 6000 in 1835 to 588 by 1915. Consequently they were forced to abandon their traditional villages and today gather largely at two sites, Old Masset (pop. 650) and Skidegate (Haida pop. 550). At other locations the homes and totems fell into disrepair, and only at Sgan Gwaii , a remote village at the southern tip of the Queen Charlottes, has an attempt been made to preserve an original Haida settlement; it has now been declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO.
^These days the Haida number around 2000, and are highly regarded in the North American art world; Bill Reid, Freda Diesing and Robert Davidson are amongst the best-known figures, and scores of other Haida craftspeople produce a mass of carvings and jewellery for the tourist market. They also play a powerful role in the islands' social, political and cultural life, having been vocal in the formation of sites such as the Gwaii Haanas National Park Reserve , South Moresby's Haida Heritage Site and Duu Guusd Tribal Park , the last established to protect old aboriginal villages on Graham Island's northwest coast.
For the Haida "Galley":
PRTO_Haida_Galley
^
^
^The Haida Galley is a strong and fast replacement for the Galley in the Haida's early navy. It receives one extra movement point, as well as one extra attack point.
DESC_PRTO_Haida_Galley
^
^
^The Haida were entering the Bronze Age when Europeans arrived in the New World. Before seeing European ships off their coast, the Haida largely used large, well-made Canoes for their raiding and sea transportation. However, seeing the large sailing craft of the Europeans inspired them to create their own sailing ship. The result was a vessel remarkably similiar to the Galleys used by the Ancient Greeks. The ship was expertly made in the Haida style, and sporting beautifully decorated sails. This ship was another reason why the Haida earned the nickname, "the Vikings of North America".
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Sword, good work! I found a Haida shield to be added in the figure, I have to test this, I don't know if it works. I found freebies to all the cultures around the world, but continues hard to find a Haida one 
We have all the infos, let's decide all the ACM bonuses. As I have a new preview of Haida leader, I'll post
We have all the infos, let's decide all the ACM bonuses. As I have a new preview of Haida leader, I'll post
stgelven
Prince
thanks civarmy to think of me!;-)
my time will come, maybe for an other secenario, who knows?
my time will come, maybe for an other secenario, who knows?
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stgelven said:
We have all the civilopedia text ready, for units and civis, I think. I don't know if this mod will have new tech tree, if it has, maybe help to write all the techs civilopedia will be requered.
I think u could help me again in the Neanderthal scenario. I'll send u a e-mail right now tell u what u'd do
jorde
Leaderhead Engineering
CivArmy s. 1994 said:What leaderhead are u creating? If it is a leader from your country or Americas, maybe it can be added in ACM in futures version
It's supposed to be Artigas, the most important of our national libertarians... Here it is attached a frame of that LH (though I made it by pasting his clothes over the rendered image, so I cannot move his head much or it'll be covered by his clothes)... Lights and some facial details need to be fixed yet...
And below is a pic made of him (with the clothes I've chosen for the LH)
http://www.uruguayinfo.com/history/JoseArtigas02.jpg
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jorde said:
Good work Jorde! When u finish this one we can add in ACM, maybe not in this first version, but in a expand pack or as a extra art!!!
If u need help, contact me
, my e-mail adress is in my home page (link on the signature).
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Anything else I can do to help in these early stages Civarmy?
Heres some things I would be very willing(I hope you'll let me actually) to do:
1. The Tech Tree should be different than the normal Civ3 one in that all the techs should have an Americas-flavor to it. Likewise, all the Wonders should be Americas-Wonders, like Chichen Ista, the Temple of Tikal(And those wonders from the Mesoamerican Scenerio), El-Dorado, the Fountain of Youth, Brazil's Stadium, the Panama Canal, Mt. Rushmore, the Statue of Liberty etc.
The Units should also be different(I have a few things in mind actually)
Heres some things I would be very willing(I hope you'll let me actually) to do:
1. The Tech Tree should be different than the normal Civ3 one in that all the techs should have an Americas-flavor to it. Likewise, all the Wonders should be Americas-Wonders, like Chichen Ista, the Temple of Tikal(And those wonders from the Mesoamerican Scenerio), El-Dorado, the Fountain of Youth, Brazil's Stadium, the Panama Canal, Mt. Rushmore, the Statue of Liberty etc.
The Units should also be different(I have a few things in mind actually)
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My next step s finished Haida leader, after that I'll decide the ACM bonuses. Sword, you could organize a new tech tree, not produce yet, just organize the techs in this first step
jorde
Leaderhead Engineering
CivArmy s. 1994 said:Good work Jorde! When u finish this one we can add in ACM, maybe not in this first version, but in a expand pack or as a extra art!!!
If u need help, contact me
Well, my biggest problem at the moment is finding a way to attach that clothing image to a Poser object, so I could move his head a little (it doesnt seem natural that he changes his expresions but doesnt move his head at all)...
Knowing that, I could make the Industrial Age quickly (the one I just posted), and then I have enough material to make an Ancient and Modern age... and then, using the method I'd use for this age, I could borrow some clothing from any European Civ king, and my LH would be ready then
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Clever way of doing the leaderhead's clothing Jorde. Civarmy, if finding Haida Textures becomes to hard, you could use his method for the Medival Era Chief Koyah(Great Leader of the Haida)
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Sword_Of_Geddon said:
It is a good idea, I saw many leaderheads using this system
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Well the leaderhead seems to be progressing nicely thanks to you Civarmy, but I wonder how Aaglo's doing with the Haida's UU?
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