The origin of anti-semitism and pro-semitism

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Since i live in the city which was called not long ago (up to ww2 and the german occupation) the Madre de Israelhttp://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Jewish-Museum-of-Thessaloniki i thought that i could start a thread about my view about the reasons of the anti-semitism (and on the other hand of the equally negative pro-semitism) which still exists.
I have fleetingly mentioned my view of this in another thread, however i can now present it more elaborately.
In my opinnion anti-semitism, although negative by itself as any other racism, has some specific elements which make it more complicated as far as its reasons are to be concerned. The fundamental philosophical explanation of it has been given by Nietzsche in many of his later era books. I echoe some ideas from there too in this post.

** The jewish religion, in relation to the other religious traditions **

-Historically the jewish race found itself in very weak positions
-The weak position led to the development of a worhip in a deity which was not only a protector of its worshipers (like the greek or norse gods for example) but a deity which denied the existence of any other deities. Unlike the greek gods, which were often brought to Greece from the middle east or Egypt, and were hellenised or remained mostly something asiatic (as in the case of Dionysus, who was associated with Asia and with Asian ways of life, as can be seen in Euripedes's Bachai where Dionysus is met with distrust due to the dissorganised frenzy of his religion) the jewish god appears out of nowhere, to reveal himself to Moses, and immediately dissalows any other worhip.
-A god which can punish was not a new idea (Dionysus saw to it that Pentheas wa decapitated by Penthea's own mother, who was on a trance provoked by Dionysus; there are ofcourse many other examples of divine fury against the mortals in mythology) however what was new was the totalitatian nature of the deity. Unlike in Greek/Norse theogonia, the jewish god did not co-exist with several other deities which could have their own patronages, and so he only accepted some acts/practices as good and pleasing to him, and some others as bad and displeasing. The divine law (first that according to tradition which was presented by Moses, later on the more complicated judaic law) was the expression of this god's will.
-Although similar cryptic traditions existed in Greece (for example the Kawirian and the Eleusinian mysteries) they were not open to the public, but only to cult members. The mass public could worhip any of the numerous deities they wanted, and it often was the case that they worshiped deities which complimented each other, so that they would get the benefit of all of the patronages. Also more philosophical ideas about religion were present, for example in the Socratic dialogues. Although elements of supposed religious frenzy have been recorded in history, it seems that they were not strictly religious, but mixed with political reasons, as in the case of Alcibiades's exile from Athens after the accusation for the destruction of the heads of the deity-statues. Also it can be noted that in Athens, along with the hundreds of other deities, there existed also an altar to "the uknown god", which should be understood as a continiuation of the attempt ofthose of the ancient Greeks who respected religion to form it in a way which would help them live their own lives more comfortably, through this complimentary patronage of the various deities.
-On the contrary there was no attempt to form religion in such a way which would help everyday life, in the jewish religion. Here the axiom was that the god should be such a one that he would be able to stand for utter salvation of his believers (ie the jewish people, who are seen as chosen from the start, again unlike in Greek theogonia) and utter destruction for the non-believers. The god would ensure this utter destruction, and would do that if only he was worhiped enough by his believers. Any postponement of the utter destruction of Israel's enemies was only down to the inadequate faith the jewish people had in their god, whereas any military victory was caused by adequate faith, even only in some individuals. The entire way of viewing history, therefore, was infested with religion, and nothing was without connections to religion and faith to the god, from the jewish perspective. The jewish god didnt care about non-jews, up to the time of christianity.

** The effect of Christianity, in relation to the jewish god **

-Christianity, if one trusts the new testament, was formed from Jesus and his disciples. Jesus, being a jew, was involved in reading the judaic law, and at some time dissaproved of it. The main points he argued against were the very delicate prescriptions of the judaic law which enables the corrupt jewish clergy classes to be acting in his view against the essense of the law, but on the other hand practising the law to the letter. Jesus from the start moved against the clergy class, of whom he asserted that no one would be saved, whereas people who were of lower class, or of class associated with 'sin' (for example the merchants) could be saved still, if they followed him. The teaching of Jesus targeted always the poor and the needy, the less educated and sick, the simple people. It could be seen as a jewish sect, and at the time it was just that.
-The spread of Christianity first took place in the roman provinces of the older hellenistic empires. While it is difficult to explain the appeal of the new religion (which afterall later led to people being sacrificed to the lions without renouncing it) it can be argued that the bizzareness of it must have played a role, since it was clearly unique in relation to the more free religious customes of the times (even the roman emperors had begun naming themselves deities, like Alexander the great before them). It must be noted that the number of deities worshiped in the roman empire was vast, however all of them were complimentary to each other, unlike the sole jewish god.
-After Christianity became the official religion of the roman empire many large scale murders of old-believers were performed, in tens of thousants, ussually in plots which led them to the hippodromes of the large cities. Christianity had now become the sole religion, and its guidelines were identical to the original jewish religion as far as the non-complimentary quality of the divine patronage. Some acts were permitted and others were seen as anathema. In the future many acts carried the penalty of death, with the most infamous period of such a practice being the inquisition. Aions before, the old testament, which originally was left out of the new religion, was added to the holy book canon. Thus the older, non-christian, utterly judaic canon now became part of the new religion.
-Christianity, however, was not accepted by the jewish people, who for that reason were seen in a negative eye, although the new religion itself was a product of their own religious tradition.
-Christian martyrs, church fathers, theologists, monastic orders, formed a second part of the canon of the church (along with the old and new testaments). This created a new tradition, which although still dependant in its roots from the old judaic religion (and the important concept of the non coplimentary patronage) rapidly reached great proportions.

** The age of secularism and modernity. The holocaust. The jewish image of the martyr**

-With the age of secularism the old ideas of the church lost a lot of credibility, and more importantly a lot of followers. Spirituality was again seen as a phenomenon which was distinct from the church dogma, and this led to many different sects, and many more personal faiths. Freedom to practice a faith, or even to be atheist, was assured by secular law.
-The position of the jewish people in Europe, however, did not improve as a result of that. It is more probable that the underlying reasons for this hostility were economical, and less rellevant with the crypto-dependance of christianity on the judaic canon, however the violent pogroms which took place, and climaced in the holocaust, led to a new phase in the western-jewish relations.
-Although the decline of Christianity, in part, was obvious, in the modern world one would more easily tend to associate the image of the jews not with their religion but with the image of the martyr. This was due to the holocaust, and less due to other pogroms of the past. However the loss of life brought by the holocaust was not in an unprecedented scale in the history of humanity (in was even in a smaller scale than that of the russian people in ww2). It can be noted, ofcourse, that the jews of Europe were not a nation, like Russia, but undefended people, and therefore their destruction had in itself a more symbolic quality; it could symbolise brutality and martyrdom.
-The specific status of martyr, however, which is associated with modern jews (as a second undercurrent, along with the older undercurrent of the crypto-dependance of the christian cannon on the judaic one) inevitably causes the jews to be seen in a negative eye by a non-jew, depending ofcourse on his education/personality etc, as something 'different'. There is no anti-moldavian movement in the Usa, however there are anti-semitic movements. This has a reason, which in my view is not unimportant for the explanation of the phenomenon, that is it is not enough to condemn racism of any kind but one should explain its foundations. Definately the rise of any nation or people to a special status would cause the questioning of such a status by the rest, and the identification with the image of the martyr constitutes such a special status.

** In conclusion **

The special qualities which are attributed to the jewish people as a whole are what breeds the anti-semitism, and also the pro-semitism. These are on the one hand the archaic, not decided upon, effect of the judaic tradition, and on the other the modern image of the martyr. In the past the church had interests in preserving its canon as something sacred, and this by itself led to an idealistic understanding of the judaic law, and to an exageration of its nature. What was, like anything else, a human creation, now became something associated with a deity, and through it, inevitably, after Crhistianity, an entire race, the Jews. Although this was caused by the dynamics of the old religion, and its special qualities (anti-european, due to the difference between the greek and norse theologies with the jewish one) and it placed the jewish people in a more unfavourable light on one hand, on the other it also placed them in a position of being special, albeit as the originators of the canon of the new religion. This special position got enriched by the image of the martyr, created after the holocaust. However it is human nature to not accept without examination the claim that any person, let alone an entire race, is special, and therefore it was inevitable that anti-semitism (and pro-semitism) would exist in modern times, due to those connections with a special status. It is my view that those connections should be examined, and replaced with more logical appreciations, and that such a development would lead to the demise of both anti-semitism and pro-semitism.
 
Vawrnos,

I didn't read your entire post, but with respect to Jewish Monotheism, I don't think it appeared out of nowhere. Technically speaking, if you were to go back far enough, the "jews" would have practiced polytheism, like other semitic tribes. Certain interpretations of Jupiter in the latin language come quite close to a jewish Yahweh in terms of omnipotence also at times, for example. It's often a question of perspective, and overgeneralizations can lead to inaccuracy. Perhaps over time, for example, Catholicism has emphasized monotheism, but then you have other aspects such as the saints, and Mary etc....
 
Anciant Jews did have more then one god. Monotheastic worship is first documented to have been practiced in anciant Egypt by Ahkon Aton (SP?). His atempt to convert the masses didn't hold and most of his history was wiped out by the next king.

Some one will corect me if I'm wrong.

It doesnt matter what the roots of jew hateing is. It's still vile and unacseptible.
 
"Jews" didn't exist as a people until the covenant with Abraham. They are the descendents of Abraham. Abraham's son Isaac had a son named Jacob. Jacob was renamed "Israel", which is where the people got their name. The twelve sons of Jacob became the twelve tribes of Israel.

Therefore, they were not polytheistic if you go back far enough because there is no place to go back before Abraham. They simply did not exist as a people at all.
 
VRWCAgent said:
"Jews" didn't exist as a people until the covenant with Abraham. They are the descendents of Abraham. Abraham's son Isaac had a son named Jacob. Jacob was renamed "Israel", which is where the people got their name. The twelve sons of Jacob became the twelve tribes of Israel.

Therefore, they were not polytheistic if you go back far enough because there is no place to go back before Abraham. They simply did not exist as a people at all.

You can examine their beliefs within the context of the Middle East. In which case parallels can be drawn with polytheistic semitic tribes. They didn't emerge out of thin air. IE. the Ark of the Covenant is really a tribal symbol common to nomadic semitic tribes. I'm not that interested whether you wish to make claims about the mythological founding of the religion, because that in fact can be limiting if you choose to ignore the historical context and surroundings.
 
I was simply trying to point out that they didn't exist as some ancient tribe that had been around for ages and ages. But if you want to blow off my post because it has religious basis, I'm used to that so go right ahead. Personally, I'd not dismiss biblical accounts so readily if I were you. It's a pretty good source of history.

Just FYI though, by "covenant", I was not referring to the Ark of the Covenant.
 
VRWCAgent said:
I was simply trying to point out that they didn't exist as some ancient tribe that had been around for ages and ages. But if you want to blow off my post because it has religious basis, I'm used to that so go right ahead. Personally, I'd not dismiss biblical accounts so readily if I were you. It's a pretty good source of history.

Just FYI though, by "covenant", I was not referring to the Ark of the Covenant.

I know you were not referring to the Ark. I was using it as an example of an important symbol used by polytheistic, nomadic Semite tribes. Btw, I have a very amateur interest, nonetheless interest in the Near East and history in general. I am interested in Semitic history, including Biblical accounts, though I do not interpret them literally. The Jews adopted an awful lot from Babylon.
 
skadistic said:
Anciant Jews did have more then one god. Monotheastic worship is first documented to have been practiced in anciant Egypt by Ahkon Aton (SP?). His atempt to convert the masses didn't hold and most of his history was wiped out by the next king.

Some one will corect me if I'm wrong.
I'll add some stuff, OK?

Actually Aten-worship wasn't fully monotheistic either. It was a reform that was presented as a purification of faith and a return to a more original form of religion. Though the general flavour was one of triumphant celebration of Aten as the One-God-Of-Everything.
But Akhenaten also stressed the worship of a bunch of Old Kingdom deities pretty much fallen out of use as well. (Gods representing natural phenomena: Geb-earth, Nut-sky, Shu-air, Tefnut-moisture etc.)

And there were similarities between the worship of Amun and Aten. Amun was "the unknown god", the one that within himself encompasses all other dieties, they are all just facets of his comprehensive nature. So technically Amun worship might be considered to have a montheistic flavour in some ways as well.

What seems to have been really new about Aten is that it was assumed that direct and personal contact between the common believer and his god was possible. That seems to be a new development around 1300 BC.
And this attractive aspect was picked up by Amun-worship as well and doesn't seem that dissimilar to the way the figures of OT interact with their god.
 
varwnos said:
Here the axiom was that the god should be such a one that he would be able to stand for utter salvation of his believers (ie the jewish people, who are seen as chosen from the start, again unlike in Greek theogonia) and utter destruction for the non-believers. The god would ensure this utter destruction, and would do that if only he was worhiped enough by his believers. Any postponement of the utter destruction of Israel's enemies was only down to the inadequate faith the jewish people had in their god, whereas any military victory was caused by adequate faith, even only in some individuals. The entire way of viewing history, therefore, was infested with religion, and nothing was without connections to religion and faith to the god, from the jewish perspective. The jewish god didnt care about non-jews, up to the time of christianity.
I think you may be overintepreting the fact that the Hebrews were at times Gods instrument.
It's not that dissimilar from the Greek view of things. In both cases the divine decision-making process is hidden from humans.
Not performing the Will of God will have dire consequences for Hebrews. So will behaving in a hubristic way for the Greek. In both instances "the wicked" get punished.

And it doesn't really matter if you believe or not. God's will gets done, or not, regardless, and your personal eternal salvation isn't made an issue. People tend to end up as shadows in the Land of the Dead in the end anyway.
Paradise after death isn't a Hebrew but and Egyptian concept originally. It was around among Hebrews at the time of Christ as a special place for very holy people, but it was a late addition, prolly after the Babylonian captivity. (Paradise is mentioned three times the the NT, and the word is Persian in origin.)

The Hebrews due to the convenant have to do their Gods bidding, and get punished for failing to carry it out, contrary to explicit orders (Saul over the Amalekites).
On the other hand you also get situations such as when Abraham actively bargains with his God to be allowed to go have a look-see if he can find enough decent folk in Sodom and Gomorrah to stave of instant divine destruction, even if he eventually fails to do so.

As for Hebrew political fortunes, they would mostly assume that any fall out of the grace of their god was caused by themselves. And all success means praise for whatever Lord is involved to all nations at that time and place. Not much difference between Baal-Hammon and Ywh on that score.

It is of course a fact that the general tenor of ME politics at the time was pretty harsh. The Hebrew kingdoms in victory were outdone in brutality towards defeated enemies only by the Assyrians.
But I can't really see that religious doctrinal reasons caused this? (It sure didn't for the Assyrians.) Or that the Hebrews were really worse then the other guys around.

Just generally I'm wondering if you're not in danger of anachronistically transferring some very modern religious notions about faith onto the ancient Hebrews here?
They, like the Greek, were less interested in faith and doctrine (peoples convictions and the contents of their heads) than they were in outward displays of religious identity, ritual.

And that still to some extent holds for Judaism: Living a Jewish religious life to a very large extent means performing the rituals. How you live might me more crucial than exactly what you believe in a sense.
This is often pointed out as something that still slightly sets Judaism of from Christianity (which is very interested in the doctrinal purity of its believers by comparison).
 
Varwanos:
Having now read the whole thing.

Your conclusion is then that it's the exceptional status of the Jews that has made them a target for prejudice. And the solution would have been the disappearence of this status of exceptionality. (Not entirely dissimilar to the 19th c. Sionist idea that getting the Jews a homeland would mean they could become just another normal nation-state among others.)

Secularism would have been expected to transfer the religious exceptionalism of Judaism in relation to Christianity (which is the only meaningfull frame of reference for it) to the scrap heap of history, but the Holocaust has generated another kind of exceptionality, a secular one, that supercedes that older religious one.

Yeah, that's worth thinking about.

The key to it all to me still seems to be that Christianity regards Judaism as a passed developmental stage.
The first convenant is overtaken by the second, so in some ways the continued presence of the Jews is a provocative anomaly, accepted at a sufferance since the Bible (Revelations) does state that there will be jews present at the second coming of the Lord.

That was first a Christian view and later it was given a secular framework by the 19th c. historians of religion (Max Müller, Renan), who viewed the racially inferior (their view) semite Jews as a sterlie, passive repositories of the Great Idea of monotheism, until the point in history where the intellectually inventive Aryans could pick it up and develop it. (Which meant the Jews should disappear having served their only historical purpose.)

As for a secular Jewish exceptionality based on the Jews-as-victims, I'm with Zygmunt Bauman on that the Holocaust is a major problem to the West as it puts the whole project of progressive modernity in a very questionable light — the Holocaust being something that shouldn't be possible at the heart of a modern society but happened nontheless. Leaving us with a huge mess on our hands and insufficient tools to deal with it. And the Jews, no fault of their own, right smack in the middle of it all, again.
 
jonatas said:
You can examine their beliefs within the context of the Middle East. In which case parallels can be drawn with polytheistic semitic tribes. They didn't emerge out of thin air. IE. the Ark of the Covenant is really a tribal symbol common to nomadic semitic tribes. I'm not that interested whether you wish to make claims about the mythological founding of the religion, because that in fact can be limiting if you choose to ignore the historical context and surroundings.

What hes saying as they weren't Jews until the covenant was made. It's like how there wasn't any Americans until the English moved over here.
 
Ty Verbose for reading the entire post :)

I think that the crucial difference between the judaic religion and the european ones (Greek and Norse) was that the jewish god did not allow any human behaviour which was outside of his own (limited) accepted behaviours. Whereas in the european religions the many gods could protect different kinds of behaviours. A good example of that is the often conflicting Dionesian and Apollonian patronages. Dionesus being the god of religious ecstacy, orgies, drunken states, lapses of logic, and Apollo being the god of form, logic, the law. However neither Apollo nor Dionesus could destroy each other; they existed without any struggle which could lead to the destruction of one and the other.
The first attic drama was played out in dionesian ceremonies. Later on with its development one can see the conflict between the two themes of logic/law and lapse of logic/free/often bizarre behaviour. The Maeniads by Europedes has this as its main theme.

The concept of Hybris has been mentioned in the thread as well. Hybris took place when someone acted in such a way which clearly belittled a god; for example Pentheas in the Maeniads claimed to Dionesus (who was at the time dressed up as a peasant-foreigner, and hadnt revealed his tre identity) that in his state only logic and the law were needed, and he had no use for alien, less important customes. This hybris led to his death later in the play. However still the hybris by itself was not an act that would make one an oucast, as for example the judaic law would make an outcast out of a non-religious jew; hybris was expected to bring the demise of the person, but not because it was acting against one particular god but against the entire foundation of the religion, which was based on the complimentary character of all the deities. Pentheas still remained loyal to Apollonian ideas, and the Dionesian deity still was an alien in his city, and so there were no temples for it. Infact Dionesus went to the city with the goal of establishing his religion there as well. The religious crime of Pentheas was commited without any knowledge that he was acting against a god, and still it was punished in the play because it was robbing one god of his priviledges. This co-existence of many, often with conflicting patronages, deities, ensured that all fields of action could be allowed for humans (somethign which at the time could not be granted in secular ways) since all fields of action had at least one patron god. This allowed for a bigger liberty of action than the judaic religion.
It also allowed for a clear formation of law to be used by the city-states, philosophy, and art which echoed both the law and the philosophy and the impression of the religion, since the religious background was one where anything had one god patron. On the contrary the jewish religion allowed only the will of the one god, who wasnt in favour of everything, and this led to the creation of a law which was very closely related with the speculation about the nature of that god, unlike in ancient Greece.
 
Well, there is an issue: were the Jews solely monotheistic after Abraham? Some scholars believe otherwise. In fact, there's a school of thought that the Hebraic conception of One True God is an amalgamation of Akhon-aten (brought out of Egypt with Moses) and Yahweh, a "local" Volcano God in Canaan.

I'm not saying this is what I believe; I'm just saying there's a lot of doubt among some scholars as to whether the Jews were monotheistic after Abraham.

...and, of course, let's not forget the Golden Calf.
 
very good article varwnos.

i like to make some additions, cause sometimes i think your explanations dont make clear whats seen as being "wrong" with the jewish religion.

as you already said, until the late middle age, antisemitism was based on the religion. then, after the fench revolution, came the shift to a racist, modern antisemitism.
the religious a.s. has its roots in the interpretation that the new monotheistic jewish religion was/is patriarchal. the ancient greek polytheistic religions were based on the matriarchat. so one says that the jews were guilty of expulsing/driving away the whole humankind out of the dionysian and matriarchal paradies, we once lived in.
they brought the evil patriarchat to earth. now the discipline and the law of the father is ruling, where once the humans lived in peace with nature and themselves.

the next cause of religious a.s. is that the jews were made guilty of being responsible for killing gods son.
aslong as the a.s. had religious content, the jews could avoid it by being baptized. easy peasy.

but what led to the shoa was the fact, that the new, modern a.s. located the "error" of the jews in their blood, their race.

anyway, the new modern a.s. has many roots and causes. sometimes its a political instrumentalisation, e.g. production of "the protocols of the elders of zion" by the russian, czarian police, or the lower bourgeoisie which felt threatened in their economical existence by certain industrial/economical developments in the late 19th and early 20th century.

well, what is also really interesting are the modern psychological/psychoanalytical explanations of modern a.s.
but i think its a topic on its own.
 
An additional point is that the jewish tradition is unusual in combining religious and dynastic memberships - i.e. unlike pretty much every other major religion you can't be a jew unless you claim descent from the twelve tribes.

As a result, the Jewish tradition claims both that they are special, or chosen, in the same way that many other religions do ('only believers will be saved') but adds the rider that you cannot be a true believer unless you are of a particular racial descent, thereby excluding others from salvation, even should they aspire to it.

Further, jewish businessmen maintained geographic and cultural links through the dark and middle ages that helped them to prosper as merchants and money-changers at a time when such activities were viewed as unclean in some way. No doubt jealousy at the success of the Jewish merchant class combined with anger at dependence on money-lender and having the strength to pillage them with impunity all gave the Middle Ages' elite a powerful reason to despise, and encourage persecution of, Jews generally.

So we have a unique combination of reasons: religious ('killers of the son of god', 'claim to be god's chosen'), tribal ('will not admit non-jews to the faith'), cultural ('demonstrably and overtly separate'), economic & political ('wealthy, successful and physically vulnerable') drivers all offer opportunities for their persecution, making them almost uniquely vulnerable and tempting targets.

While the religious drivers are often cited as the reasons for past anti-semitism, I suspect the real reasons are more to do with the cultural, economic and political factors, which mostly remain in place to this day.

Anti-semitism, like any other form of racism, remains utterly wrong and abhorrent, whatever the explanations of its sources.
 
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