The Party

[I am the Future]

Vote as you Wish in all polls at less asked otherwise

 

[koondrad]

what are we for in the polls or are we neutral in all of them

As Big Brother has said, vote for what you want as we don't want to seem like a voting bloc.

@Victor - No sweat mate, its plusgood to have another active member.

 

[Daghdha]

I read somewhere a post by IatF saying the party don't wanna be mocked (and then, as I read it, the reason why) because it is political roleplay. I'm just curious about whether that kind of roleplay differs from all the other roleplaying in here and, if so, in what way. As I see it, your Orwellian manifesto has a target painted on it's chest screaming to be hit by loads of mud. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a main purpous...to be provocative? I think that is 100% OK and I whish you lots of fun with it, but why the offended tone when it's just goofin around?

 

[koondrad]

I read somewhere a post by IatF saying the party don't wanna be mocked (and then, as I read it, the reason why) because it is political roleplay. I'm just curious about whether that kind of roleplay differs from all the other roleplaying in here and, if so, in what way. As I see it, your Orwellian manifesto has a target painted on it's chest screaming to be hit by loads of mud. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a main purpous...to be provocative? I think that is 100% OK and I whish you lots of fun with it, but why the offended tone when it's just goofin around?

I'm not really sure what you're getting at but I'll try to respond to your post anyway. Orwellian? Yes the source material behind The Party is Orwell's 1984. What other role-playing is there in here? We’re the only group really that is role-playing. I think that in a lot of the other parties, some members actually subscribe to the principals of their party and feel vaguely similar in RL. Maybe The Party is provocative but I think people appreciate that it is just based on a work of fiction. It’s not like we’re the Nazi or Stalinist party. Who had an offended tone? I’m sure they were just in character.



Cheers,

 

[Daghdha]

I don't think it was that big a deal, it just made me curious about what is role play and how do you look upon yourselves as the, ideed, nazi/stalinist bunch you pretend to be. If you are made fun of because of the "role-played" opinions, I take it you don't feel personally offended, but may "act" as if you were and therefore your response are not to be taken seriously.

 

[I am the Future]

YOu would be correct to say that we are here to be somewhat provocative. But we do it only in good fun and to add to the role play element of the game. The role play is key because, as stated previously, we do not actually believe that the Ideas of IngSoc are best, or even all that good but becuase we wish to add variety and have fun at the same time. We also would like to let our totalitarian ideas be made law through our numbers. This might prove that what the people want isn't allways best, but that is just a side mission. My problem with the "mocking" was that it was about the previous thought crim committed by someone who never existed. Which in the end didn't do anything accept give us something to talk about for a page. Just role Play, PLAy not real.

 

[IamSid]

Yeah sorry about that guys I was just joking around. Hope nobody minded.

 

[Daghdha]

@IatF
Thanks for taking you time. I will treat Party posts accordingly, as Play.

 

[koondrad]

Don't ever forget that this is a demogame.

 

[Daghdha]

Don't ever forget that this is a demogame.

Oh, I know it's just a game, but even so we are real people interacting. Some participants differ on how "real" or how "act" they are. Some post as the person behind the nick, i.e. what they really think about stuff while others are taking on a "forum personality" and act out opininons/behaviour that is just for play. No way is better than the other, but if we don't recognize that difference we can easily end up in meaningless disputes. The intention with my initial question was not to criticise you in any way, only to figure out whether the Party stance was "for real" in some way, or just an act. I've understood it as just an act and that's cool and I'm delighted to read IatF saying that this role-play can (perhaps) show that majority decisions can be bad , which is quite the opposite of the manifesto. If you honestly, as the person behind the nick and not the role-player, think that the manifesto is a piece of crap, then you should welcome posts that criticise it, right?
I do see the problem with taking on a role-opinion that is very different to you real life opinion....
Lyckily for me I'm a member of the Idiot's Partee so I don't have to deal with that

 

[koondrad]

Oh, I know it's just a game, but even so we are real people interacting. Some participants differ on how "real" or how "act" they are. Some post as the person behind the nick, i.e. what they really think about stuff while others are taking on a "forum personality" and act out opininons/behaviour that is just for play. No way is better than the other, but if we don't recognize that difference we can easily end up in meaningless disputes. The intention with my initial question was not to criticise you in any way, only to figure out whether the Party stance was "for real" in some way, or just an act. I've understood it as just an act and that's cool and I'm delighted to read IatF saying that this role-play can (perhaps) show that majority decisions can be bad , which is quite the opposite of the manifesto. If you honestly, as the person behind the nick and not the role-player, think that the manifesto is a piece of crap, then you should welcome posts that criticise it, right?
I do see the problem with taking on a role-opinion that is very different to you real life opinion....
Lyckily for me I'm a member of the Idiot's Partee so I don't have to deal with that

Yes there are some good points there. I think that most people in The Party are here in a role-playing personality. I don't think that anyone actually believes in the totalitarian ideals in RL. You only have to read Goldstein's book (I don't know how familiar you are with 1984) to see how bad Ingsoc would be in RL, and how self-destructive it is. You're quite right, it is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion within reason. Anyone is entitled to criticise The Party, but that doesn't mean we won't give it as bad as we get it. I haven’t taken offense at any point because of what's been said. On the internet it can be difficult sometimes to see who’s serious and who isn't; that's why we have emoticons. For me it’s not that difficult to have opinions that differ from my opinions in RL. It is Civ4 and so it is not a model of a country. It has its limitations. Any wars that happen are in fact imaginary and real people don’t get hurt, as I’m sure you’ll appreciate.

Finally, think about how boring the Demogame would be if everyone had the same principals and ideas.

 

[I am the Future]

Goldstein's book

SOunds like thought crime


Though it is play, and you shouldnt think we are nuts. I also want you to know that it is the stance we take in the game. And we still want it to prevale over other ideas.

 

[koondrad]

SOunds like thought crime

I was actually referring to Jonathan Goldstein's book, "Schmelvis: In Search of Elvis Presley's Jewish Roots"






Anyways, Oceania will prevail,

 

[I am the Future]

I was actually referring to Jonathan Goldstein's book, "Schmelvis: In Search of Elvis Presley's Jewish Roots"

So are you calling Big Brother Wrong?

Anyways, Oceania will prevail

That is of course true.

 

[Illini Rule]

I dont mind if people are agienst our party. I make fun of people i dont with all the time. I find this party fun and enjoyable, but I do not care if you do not feel that way.

 

[I am the Future]

I would Like to request that we make a group decision on who should try and run for what in the upcoming election. If anyone dosnt agree with one nomination for the areas from the party then that is fine.

Any thoughts, nominations, arguements, etc.?

 

[koondrad]

What is the latest report from the Eurasian front?

 

[I am the Future]

What is the latest report from the Eurasian front?

I dont wish to sound cocky, but I dare say taht we could be at the mediteranian by the end of the week. And have the Iberian penninsula shortly after.

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING

 

[xyourxmomxcorex]

Im a orwell fan and would like to join the party...

 

[Nuka-sama]

Uh.. is there room to join? I'm kinda a noob to this place.