The Youngest Country

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I was just wondering, what would the youngest country be? By this I don't mean when a country like, for example, Yugoslavia splits into several new countries. But more along the lines of the country/civilization that built the last town/city with the last settler.

Any ideas?
 
NewWaver said:
But more along the lines of the country/civilization that built the last town/city with the last settler.

Any ideas?

The world isn't Civ.
Having said that, the "youngest country" would most probably be Timor Leste which became independent in 2002.
 
With all due respect, this is a really dumb question to ask! There are no 'settler units' in the real world and towns don't have to have 'an aqueduct' to become a city. Sorry but it needed saying!
 
I think Kazakhstan just buillt a new capital, so in civ/settler analogy, that'd be it. The youngest independent state is East-Timoe, but they should have become independent 30 years ago if it wasn't for Indonesia's invasion. And it had been centuries that the territory of East-Timor was separated from the surrounding lands (Indonesia dutch, East Timor portuguese, and most importantly catholic, which more than anything was the mark of individuality).

If the question refers to the youngest nation-state, which became independent without any previous sentiment of a collective identity separated from the neighbouring countries, that is very hard to say. It would have to be a country born out of political, ideological, economical or geo-strategic reasons, often from the influence of foreign powers. A few candidates in my view would be quite a few african countries born out of the colonial borders, most of them absolutely artificial in terms of previous cultural and political identities, North Korea and some of the archipelagos that belonged to european powers, and wich without any significative self-determination sentiments took the de-colonization ride in the 50s, 60s and 70s and formed a new country. Others, that don't exist anymore would be, in Europe, Yugoslavia and the DDR.
 
For some odd reason, I have to think of an old eyebrow-raiser in Civ2.

"You have discovered scrolls of ancient wisdom."
CivX discovers Alphabet

Think about it ;)
 
SeleucusNicator said:
Canada. It was the last nation to be settled by its current population.

In that sense, I guess New Zealand and Australia coould also challenge. But maybe it will be some lost island somewhere with some sort of semi-autonomy.
Also Vatican's current inhabitants are all surely very recent immigrants. ;)
 
Singapore's pretty new, too, although I think it predates New Zealand.
 
Rambuchan said:

:wallbash:

How could so many posters in this thread, myself included, have forgotten?

Though I suppose you could argue that there have always been Jews in that area of the world; and, indeed, there was a historical Israel/Judea. So its not as totally new as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand.
 
Samaliland. Isn't officially independant from Samalia, but that didn't stiop them having general elections where all the parties were in favour of independance.
 
Kafka2 said:
I was going to say Somaliland too, though it's not recognised by the UN.
There have been people living here for thousands of years. Not only did they have towns but they they were also busy building great wonders. I read an excellent "Biography of Africa" whilst working in a left wing book shop in Whitechapel for a year. There was the very colourful account of this civilisation, more closely located north west toward Eritrea, which spent a great deal of its time building massive phallic towers. No purpose other than being wonderously tall and phallic. I vaguely remember some connections they had with The Queen of Sheeba and King Solomon. The colourful part of the story was that they took their phallus building too far. Their most spectacular erection finally, well, drooped. I mean, it fell over. And this was taken to be unequivocally bad omen. This was relayed not as legend or myth but as an actual history of this region of Africa. There was so much else in that 'biography' that I never looked into it further.
Kafka2 said:
In geological terms, it's the Maldives.
I reckon folk have been living here for a long time. What's your criteria for pulling this one out the bag old chap?
 
If you want countries that were inhabited rather late, rather than just replacing indigenous inhabitants, you have Iceland in the 9th century, New Zealand sometime between 1200 and 1400 (the Maori), and Mauritius in 1638. (Mauritius had been visited before that but not inhabited.)
 
I don't think Israel qualifies. The state is very recent, but the idea and notion of the jewish nation has been around for millenia. I would say it is in fact one of the oldest nations in the world, even if the state of Israel is actually one of the youngest nation-states. Tanzania is pretty recent too, being the the federation of 2 earlier post-colonnial states, Tanganica and Zanzibar.
 
Hmmmm.... interesting idea.
In terms of migration I'd have to go with NZ for the Maori influx of 900 odd years ago.
Is there anywhere else where the indigenous inhabitants migrated there so late?
 
SeleucusNicator said:
You're right, Australia probably beats Canada.

...I thought we beat the US too..! 1604 is when Quebec was founded, what's the earliest white settlers in the States?
 
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