This game discriminates against Atheists!

[Kieran]

I guess that is the problem with arguing about the existence of an all powerful god. No matter what argument you think of, you can always explain it by saying god did that on purpose.

I always wonder why is it that God's great prophets are always Men,

If he is all powerful why can he not send any woman as well?

Why is Jesus the 'Son' of god why not have an only daughter of god

And why does the bible not mention dinosaurs or extraterrestrials?

 

[StarWorms]

God clearly likes athiests or else he'd kill us all.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

God clearly likes atheists or else he'd kill us all.

Oh no, He's letting yourselves dig an even deeper hole so He can make your eternal punishment that much worse . . .

Seriously though, even if one assumes that God is as Christians describe Him, and Jesus is the way to salvation, the fact is that Jesus showed up very late in human history and that most of the human race never had a chance of even hearing about him. So I don't think that guessing correctly on how to worship is a prerequisite to salvation.

 

[kernok]

I always wonder why is it that God's great prophets are always Men,

If he is all powerful why can he not send any woman as well?

Why is Jesus the 'Son' of god why not have an only daughter of god

And why does the bible not mention dinosaurs or extraterrestrials?

simple: we don't know if god created men and women BUT we know that men created god

"what for?" (may you ask me...)

simple: to obtain the power and to keep it as long as possible


knowledge = power
religion = avoiding people to gain knowledge
religion = seek for power

other questions?

 

[dh_epic]

Hey, does anybody know any good strategy games?

 

[Mozza]

There are parts of the bible that were removed in the middle ages because they imply that women are equal to men. They mention other women than Eve and her daughters.

The bible also claims that growing peas in the same field as corn should be punishable by death.

 

[lateralis]

the bible says all those things but never says slavery, child abuse/murder, genocide, theft, suicide, adultery, unforgiveness, beastiality, human sacrifice, cannabilism, prostitution, voyeurism, rape, natural disasters, anger, fury, jealousy, pillaging are right, but that all of those are wrong.

OT:

Exodus 21:7-11: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment."

Leviticus 25:44-46: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

Genesis 16:1-2: "Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai."

NT:
Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."


slavery ok? check
SEXUAL slavery ok? check
rape ok? check

you were saying?

edit: sorry I had to add this one-
Exodus 21:20-21: "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." - very nice.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

There are parts of the bible that were removed in the middle ages because they imply that women are equal to men. They mention other women than Eve and her daughters.

I am fairly certain that is not true. The books of the Bible as now determined were selected long before this hazy "Middle Ages" that we like to use so much to refer to supposedly unenlightened times. And the books in question were not used by the Jews either.

 

[Datian]

Lateralis, don't bother to quote, someone will explain that you misunderstood : indeed, your mind is so simple and unable to grasp the subtlety of the message that you read the words in order. You're just wrong, you have to scramble them until they make another sense

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Look, I know as well as anyone how hard to read the Bible is. It's not the Bible's fault so many people take it literally; no one is criticizing the legal codes and written myths of any other Bronze Age semi-nomadic Semitic tribes, now are they?

And yes, I do believe in the Bible. But not as much as I believe in the fundamental goodness of God.

 

[AfterShafter]

Look, I know as well as anyone how hard to read the Bible is. It's not the Bible's fault so many people take it literally; no one is criticizing the legal codes and written myths of any other Bronze Age semi-nomadic Semitic tribes, now are they?

And yes, I do believe in the Bible. But not as much as I believe in the fundamental goodness of God.

If you don't believe in the Bible literally, what guidelines do you use to interpret its meaning then? Serious question, actually.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

If you don't believe in the Bible literally, what guidelines do you use to interpret its meaning then? Serious question, actually.

And a good one, besides.

As a Mormon, I believe in other scriptures in addition to the Bible. The Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants all help provide an interpretation of the Bible, all scriptures we use, help paint a clearer picture.

I also rely somewhat on history and science - geology and paleontology suggest to me very strongly that Genesis 1 can't be taken literally. However, I think that since Biblical criticism, by and large, is operating off the assumption that God didn't really have anything to do with it - an excellent way to do research, but I don't have to agree with them - it isn't absolute.

I also have prayed about certain things, or tried to reconcile them with my belief in a loving God in general - which like I said, is greater. And ultimately, I am willing to accept some uncertainty, and rely on just my opinion. It isn't correct interpretaions of the Bible that will get anyone into heaven, after all.

 

[AfterShafter]

Interesting, if unconventional, way of going about faith. Good luck to you

 

[civ_king]

NO FLAMING. THIS IS NOT A FLAMEFEST

goodbye

 

[civ_king]

i do not belive in god but if god were 2 show him self i would reevalueate my opinion (like most atheist scientists(i think))

 

[AfterShafter]

i do not belive in god but if god were 2 show him self i would reevalueate my opinion (like most atheist scientists(i think))

You'd have trouble believing something that showed itself to you existed?

 

[Wyz_sub10]

speaking of things that dont make sense u guys say we come from a rock that just started spinning them went BOOM and made the earth witch was lava then it rained on it and birds came... right

Nooooooooooo

We didn't come from a rock.

The rock didn't go "boom".

It didn't just rain on lava (not sure what you're getting at here)

And birds didn't just come.

Chose, you're a cool guy, but on the science end, I would strongly advise you to look into this stuff more closely so that you understand what is being said and who is saying it. Of course it seems impossible to believe when you present it as you have above. But your understanding it way off.

 

[civ_king]

OT:

Exodus 21:7-11: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment."

Leviticus 25:44-46: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

Genesis 16:1-2: "Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai."

NT:
Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."


slavery ok? check
SEXUAL slavery ok? check
rape ok? check

you were saying?

edit: sorry I had to add this one-
Exodus 21:20-21: "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." - very nice.[/QUOTE

its true what does that mean
hmm???????????????????????????????????????

im not implying anything sorrow if this could count as flaming

 

[Wyz_sub10]

Exodus 21:7-11: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment."

In addition to all this is the overarching issue of "right" and "wrong". Christians - well, most theists - will tell you that god is the source of morality. It is god, and not man, who has decreed what is good and what is evil.

This position presents several major problems, not the least of which is that morality because unintelligible.

For instance, ask a Christian this question: "If morality comes from god, then if god decided raping children was good, it would be good. Do you agree?"

(apologies for the bluntness of the comment, but it needs to be repulsive to prove the point)

What response are you likely to get?
What's problematic about this reponse?

 

[civ_king]

You'd have trouble believing something that showed itself to you existed?

i just thought of some thing if god is a "higher being" then why do we say "Him" or "art father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name" ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????