Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Very true, I had just come home and i had a bit of a bad day.
Throw out Mao?
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Hunter
Civ Addict
I heard that the Civ game sold in china has a different leader for the china civ. I wonder if they could post it for download?
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
they do have a different leader, apparently the CCP doesent like Mao anymore even though he put them in power in a sense 
Hunter
Civ Addict
So how can we who do not have That other China leader get a hold of him.
And who is he???
Edit:
We have strangely similar sig's
And who is he???
Edit:
We have strangely similar sig's
Qitai
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Li ShiMing - Second emperor of Tang Dynasty - I heard.
Patroklos
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Mao isn't a good choice, but in reality not many people could name another great Chinese leader exce[t Mao's enemy Chaing KieShek, and most don't even know him (I can't even spell it). It has alot do do with language differance, names don't fit in with European phonetics and thus are not remembered easily. Oh well, but I voted to boot him anyways.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Very true: any suggestions?
Akka
Moody old mage.
Any emperor that unified the country, or bring wealth ot the empire, or anything. I think that, in 4000 years of history, we can found at least one 
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
we can find tons of them, but im asking for suggestions because im going to make a poll for it.
Loaf Warden
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Okay, here's a few suggestions:
Shihuangdi (first emperor of China)
Xuanzong
Empress Wu (Wu Zhao. Players of Civ II may remember her.)
Yongle
Taizong (also known as Li Shimin)
Kangxi
Chiang Kai-shek (written in Pinyin as Jiang Jieshi)
None of these have the same kind of name recognition as Mao Zedong has, aside from Chiang Kai-shek, but then Catherine the Great is probably less well-known than Stalin, but that didn't stop them from dropping Stalin (who, like Mao, should never have gotten in in the first place.)
Those with more knowledge of Chinese history than I have would probably point to some of those and say, "What are you, crazy? That would be a terrible choice, because. . . ." But then, that's what this debate is about. Those who don't like my options are free to tell us whom they would prefer. (Or defend Mao, I suppose, if they can.)
Shihuangdi (first emperor of China)
Xuanzong
Empress Wu (Wu Zhao. Players of Civ II may remember her.)
Yongle
Taizong (also known as Li Shimin)
Kangxi
Chiang Kai-shek (written in Pinyin as Jiang Jieshi)
None of these have the same kind of name recognition as Mao Zedong has, aside from Chiang Kai-shek, but then Catherine the Great is probably less well-known than Stalin, but that didn't stop them from dropping Stalin (who, like Mao, should never have gotten in in the first place.)
Those with more knowledge of Chinese history than I have would probably point to some of those and say, "What are you, crazy? That would be a terrible choice, because. . . ." But then, that's what this debate is about. Those who don't like my options are free to tell us whom they would prefer. (Or defend Mao, I suppose, if they can.)
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
I though they had Lenin, not stalin in civ2 (i dont remember these things anymore). I Think lenin actually would be a good leader for russia because he is stil recognized as a good man. BTW thanks for the suggestions. I think ill make the poll this weekend.
Loaf Warden
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It was Lenin in Civ II, but it was Stalin in the original Civ. Even as far back as the creation of Civ II, they had the sense to drop the evil dictator and replace him with a warmer and fuzzier dictator. But somehow, Mao has remained all this time. A lot of people don't care, apparently, but I, for one, think it's time for him to go.
But somehow, Mao has remained all this time. A lot of people don't care, apparently, but I, for one, think it's time for him to go.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Which is why i put up this poll 
Do you think lenin would be good to have as Russia again?
BTW i like the avatar of Jet Black
Do you think lenin would be good to have as Russia again?
BTW i like the avatar of Jet Black
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
ok, im putting the poll in general discussions.
Dida
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Mao murdered tens of millions of his own countrymen, and his totalitarianist rule is still effecting the country is extrmely negative ways. Get him out of there. Putting Hitler on the game would definity offend the Jews, so why are they putting him in the game?? 
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
hes in the game, we want him thrown out. go look in general discussions and vote for a replacement!
Djarum Kretek
Warlord
Ok, I'm a new member but I'm a big big big Civilization fan for the last 10 years. And I'm of Chinese descent. I want Mao out as soon as possible too!!! He is not a good representative of Chinese greatness...
Qidai and Loaf Warden already mentioned the name of my favorite Chinese ruler: Emperor Tang Taizong (whose real name was Li Shimin). He was known for his wisdom, charisma, strength of character, military prowess, ability to employ capable ministers, etc. His leadership built a strong foundation for the Tang dynasty -which later proved to be China's second Golden Age...
Qidai and Loaf Warden already mentioned the name of my favorite Chinese ruler: Emperor Tang Taizong (whose real name was Li Shimin). He was known for his wisdom, charisma, strength of character, military prowess, ability to employ capable ministers, etc. His leadership built a strong foundation for the Tang dynasty -which later proved to be China's second Golden Age...
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
then go vote on the poll in general discussions, (vote on MY poll, some other guy made one too) and vote ASAP, Mao is winning by quite alot.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
... some guy made a thread over mine, that jerk!
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