fe3333au
Deity
Glad I stayed up for this ... It was like front row 
Well at least they managed to repel the first wave.
Strider finally replied LOL
StridTNT: Sorry, I was away
fe3333au: no problem ... had a good chat with greekguy ... just wanted to say hello
StridTNT: Okay, did greekguy tell you about the case of whoop-ass were about to give the galls?
fe3333au: I will be also sending AIM contact for Chamnix and General_W as it may make chatting easier
KISS Land Target
fe3333au: around a city called Unabomber?
StridTNT: Unabomb, but yeah. I did some math... and I estimated that they galls will only have 4-6 units (injuried) left alive out of a stack of 18..
<Turn to be played soon>
StridTNT: I guess were going to see how it really turns out in an hour or two though... when I play the turn.
fe3333au: wow great I look forward to receiving the Battle Log ... looks like I may have to 'find' some of that damned wine that keeps on going missing... MIA wish you luck in the random generator
Double Silk stays as is
StridTNT: BTW... to cancel the silks I would have to declare war.
fe3333au: Yes greekguy said ... I just mentioned it as Ainwood mentioned it to us
StridTNT: Is greekguy on right now?
fe3333au: no he left couple of hours ago
fe3333au: When will you be playing?
StridTNT: I'm thinking about playing right now ... Want to watch the battle report "live"?
fe3333au: OK no rush ... I was going to bed ... bt can wait another couple hours ... bloody cold here so nothing happening outdoors
<Do I want to watch? ... YES YES YES>
fe3333au: Sure ... if you want
StridTNT: Loading the save now...
Thought I'd appologize directly
fe3333au: btw ... I hope you were not offended by my remark about expecting a 'thank you for furs note' ... I tend to get carried away sometimes ... my team often tell me to settle down LOL ... as they should :-D
StridTNT: What "thank your for the furs" note?
fe3333au: Did you do last save?
StridTNT: Yep ... I took over from Donsig... about 3 turns ago.
fe3333au: Well we sent furs after Gems were cut ... as a goodwill act to show solidarity ... same time we sent Invention
StridTNT: Yep, I remember accepting that
fe3333au: Cos you never said thankyou LOL
StridTNT: Oh, well. Thank you for the furs and crazy inventor people..
fe3333au: LOL
Galley Warning again
fe3333au: I also sent a warning for SIX galleys headed your way
StridTNT: Yep, we've made plans for them ... We calculated we have about 4 turns of free time untill they land..
fe3333au: sound good ... now all we can do is cross fingers and i guess every body part and hope for a good roll of the dice ... sounds like it is your turn for luck ... We plan to shadow the armada and keep you informed
StridTNT: Were rushing two galleys this turn, hoping to take out atleast one of them before they land ... Other than that, were counting on your information to tell us where there landing. and have a nice stack of immortals waiting for them.
fe3333au: Yes ... you may be able to keep Galleys hidden as well ... maybe even in the city ... btw their Golden Age is only 3 more turns
The Big Battle for Unabomb
StridTNT: Okay, starting bombardment on K.I.S.S. units.
fe3333au: I'll shut up and watch
StridTNT: First bombardment takes 1hp off a pike.
StridTNT: Same thing for the second bombardment
StridTNT: 1 hp off a elite gall swordsman..
StridTNT: So far they have all hit :
StridTNT: Missed a second swordsman..
StridTNT: Another hit..
StridTNT: Another hit and another failure..
StridTNT: And the last bombardment is a failure... time for the actual fighting!
StridTNT: Our elite immortal kills gallic elite Medevil infantry..
StridTNT: Lose an immortal to a pike.
StridTNT: Our immortal kills a gall pike
StridTNT: We lose another immortal to that stupid pike for earlier (now an elite).
StridTNT: We lose an immortal to a swordsman..
StridTNT: We kill an elite swordsman..
StridTNT: Killed another elite gallics swordsman..
StridTNT: Another elite gallic swordsman just met his maker ;-)
StridTNT: We lose an immortal to a medevil infantry..
StridTNT: We lose another one to a medevil infantry..
StridTNT: Immortal kills a medevil infantry..
StridTNT: Killed another medevil infantry..
StridTNT: That'll be all..
fe3333au: well you killed a fair number
Aftermath
StridTNT: eh, that was an awful RNG run though..
fe3333au: and when they attack ... your trebs will hopefully further damage them
StridTNT: I don't think they have a force capable of attacking anymore..
fe3333au: That is good
StridTNT: This is one long of a battle log though ... Only 2 units are in good enough shape to attack and we have more than 2 pikes in that city..
fe3333au: that's good ... so what do they have left?
StridTNT: 1/4 Medevil Infantry, 2/4 Medevil Infantry, 4/4 Medevil Infantry, 4/4 Medevil Infantry, 1/5 Pike, 2/4 swordsman, 2/4 swordsman ... Then 6 trebuchets..
fe3333au: Those rock throwers are a bastard
Economy
fe3333au: How is your cash situation?
StridTNT: Were poor ... To many rushes constantly..
fe3333au: yes :-(
Examining the odds
StridTNT: If it wasn't for the gall trebuchets, we would have killed 4 more units ... eh, oh well..
fe3333au: yes ... but the same benefit will help you guys if KISS attack
StridTNT: True... that and we have alot more trebuchets ... We have about 10 or so..
fe3333au: excellent news
Battle Logs
StridTNT: Do I send the battle log to the admins also?
fe3333au: yes and to KISS
StridTNT: and I'm sending it to you guys also ... Just so you have a record..
fe3333au: yes please but send ours separate do not cc ...
StridTNT: Understood..
fe3333au: the only other thing is to tell us what the Military Strengths are
StridTNT: Same as always ... I sent it already, but it's the same as the last couple of times..
fe3333au: cool
What they want from us
fe3333au: now is there anything apart from Military Strengths and Troop Movement ... that you would like from us?
StridTNT: We could use some gold, but we don't really have anything to trade. *shrug*
fe3333au: understand ... and noted
Strategies
StridTNT: Were playing a defensive war with out southern neighbors right now ... Hoping to keep them held off and hand the galls one or two huge military defeats and get them out of the war ... Then we can turn our offensive units south and take some nutter terrority..
fe3333au: yes
StridTNT: That was a decent blow to the galls... they lost 7 units (alot of them elite).
fe3333au: yes ... it was very exciting to 'watch it happening' thanks
StridTNT: I don't see how that was exciting, but to each his own ;-)
fe3333au: Well it was like having a front row at a boxing match
Another Galley ?!!
StridTNT: BTW, our pike sees a TNT galley one tile north and one tile west of malice ... Is that one of the ones you guys can see?
fe3333au: No or we would have mentioned ... They must be moving up to keep an eye on KISS
StridTNT: Whoops.. I meant a Gall galley.. not a TNT galley ... Might be 7 galleys out there instead of six...
fe3333au: two tiles up from Malice ... we saw SIX galleys
StridTNT: Okay... then there are 7 galleys..
fe3333au: Pity there are no sea barbs :-(
StridTNT: Yep, were have two galleys next turn though... hopefully both of those battles go well
Roll of Dice have been loaded against TNT
StridTNT: The RNG has hated us this entire game..
fe3333au: yes
StridTNT: Even this battle round, we were extremely unlucky..
fe3333au: yes ... KISS were really lucky in the last big one weren't they
StridTNT: Against our pikemen earlier.. they were extremely lucky. The round this turn... was a victory for us, but statistically we should have done considerably better.
fe3333au: yes ... have you had similar bad luck with Nuts?
StridTNT: Yep, we've had about the same luck with the nutters also ... Losing multiple battles inwhich the odds were in our favor constantly ... Oh well, you take what your given. Were handle with it.
fe3333au: That luck must change soon ... does Golden Age have any effect to the odds?
StridTNT: I don't think so... we were in our Golden Age during the first TNT vs Nut war... and we lost most of those battles (and most of them were in our favor)
StridTNT: If we weren't so unlucky, we'd be doing excellent right now. Most of our problems are from our awful luck in battles...
What are Nuts upto
fe3333au: so greekguy mentioned that the Nuts were approaching a city ... when will that battle happen?
StridTNT: Likely next turn..
fe3333au: many attacking? how your defence there?
StridTNT: 6 pikes and a horseman is our defense ... They have 8 Mounted Warriors and a swordsman attacking ... The city has walls..
fe3333au: that sound favourable for you ... They probably don't expect that number of defenders
StridTNT: It's a 78% chance of victory for each battle, but they do have more units ... In favor of our pikemen..
fe3333au: best of luck with that one too
War Weariness
fe3333au: Is war weariness an issue yet?
StridTNT: Nope.... the people are happy.
fe3333au: that at least is good
StridTNT: They like killing things..
fe3333au: LOL
Question from Strider
StridTNT: Also, what did you mean by understood earlier when I made the comment? ... the gold comment that is..
fe3333au: It will be posted and discussed ... perhaps we can help ... but no promises ... as we are madly bulding miltary ... and researching
StridTNT: KISS?
fe3333au: yes
Interesting observation regarding KISS military makeup
StridTNT: It would seem that KISS has alot of there military over by us ... Well, most of there offense anyway... we've seen very few defensive units.
fe3333au: that's good to know .. they are probably all along our border
StridTNT: That would be my bet also...
Fleet Target
fe3333au: What city do you think KISS will target with their fleet?
StridTNT: I'm betting on Grenadeopolis ... It's closer, but if they decide to go for Carpetbomb ... Either way though, we don't plan on giving them a chance to even attack the city..
fe3333au: you will at least have a little warning I guess ... YES and hopefully shore bombardment plus new galleys will sink some before they can unload ... That would be a reason to celebrate
StridTNT: Yep... the current rack of immortals and trebuchets are going to heal up and head up there ... We will have an additional 6 immortals before they get a chance to land.
fe3333au: They would probably not expect the galleys
StridTNT: Yep, the odds won't be in our favor... but it won't be hugely against us ... 46% chance that our galley's will win ... Not that bad.
fe3333au: well worth the risk especially if they come out of a city and retreat back ... just depends on how they move
Attack KISS ?!!!
StridTNT: Yep, if any survives afterwards.. it might be interesting to throw acouple immortals into them and send 'em over to the galls ... If most of there offense is with us... and I'm betting there defense is on your border ... They might not expect 4-5 immortals dropping on there northern borders..
fe3333au: yes
StridTNT: Or be prepared for it..
fe3333au: double yes
StridTNT: We are hoping to remove the galls from the war soon though... actually were counting on it ... If they remain in the war, were beable to put up one hell of a fight, but both the nutters and them will out-produce us eventually..
fe3333au: I hear you
Nut Plans
StridTNT: What is the possibility of you guys getting involved sometime in the near future?
fe3333au: we are working out things regarding this issue ... we need to have defence on borders ... but are currently building up military and ships ... also working on strategies to address the Nuts and KISS ... so to answer your question we are addressing the situation ... but time is a factor as well
StridTNT: Well, sooner would be alot better than later, but still... better late than never..
fe3333au: I mentioned to greekguy that we will probably need a base of operations on your continet as well ... so that we have a place to heal wounded units ... and also act as a lure for Nuts/KISS while we surprise them somewhere they least expect it
StridTNT: I don't know how'd we'd beable to do that ... Maybe you could attack one of the cities the nuts took from us?
fe3333au: Thinking better if it were closer to home ... less travelling distance ... Divide forces as well
<BINGO ... Now we can say Strider's idea !!!>
StridTNT: You could try settling a city over by the keep..
fe3333au: Hmmm ... thats not a bad idea
StridTNT: We'd be able to supply reinforcements VIA the road..
fe3333au: assist in that defence and secure silk for us both if worst case scenario happens ... Team will certainly discuss this idea
StridTNT: Greekguy is the ambassador to you guys... so anything I say is really null and void ... Not that we'd have alot of choice if you settle a city 2 tiles away, if you get what I mean.
fe3333au: sure I understand ... We will certainly consult with you guys
About the War and TNT confidence
StridTNT: Honestly though, the nuts are a pushover. If we can get the galls off our backs... we might not even need your help ... But... if we can't get the galls off of us... were stuck fighting a two front war..
fe3333au: Yes ... at least your last turn has dented KISS
StridTNT: Hopefully we can put another dent in them also... if everything goes as planned.
fe3333au: exactly ... It will give them something to think about
<Production Information>
StridTNT: We can pump out 8 immortals or pikemen every 4 turns now... and it will get even faster soon.
fe3333au: Great!!!
Worker Strategy
StridTNT: Were going to start adding workers to some of our cities ... We already pumped Unabomb up from 1 to 6..
fe3333au: To increase production and save them from capture
StridTNT: That and we ran out of jobs for them to do..
fe3333au: Yes good point
StridTNT: We have about a dozen workers... I think about 8 of them will end up in various cities..
fe3333au: Good idea ...
Our role with the Galley
fe3333au: regarding our Galley ... do you want us to plant it on a fish or whale so you maintain food benefit around the city they will attack?
StridTNT: If possible, yes.
fe3333au: let us know .. also we don't want to get in your way
StridTNT: Yeah... greekguy will likely give you more info when it gets closer to the showdown..
fe3333au: yep
TNT Government
StridTNT: He has most of the decision-making power where you guys are concerned ;-)
StridTNT: I'm just the Crowned Prince..
fe3333au: While I am but a mouthpiece for MIA LOL
StridTNT: eh, I'm not even sure what "Crowned Prince" actually IS. We don't have a king or queen..
fe3333au: so you guys got Monachy?
StridTNT: Not really ... Were more of an absolute democracy ... Mostly though, I play the turns, make the military strategies, and I'm the ambassador to the nuts..
fe3333au: us too ... well sort of because we have fullon discussion ... but I ment the technology of Monarchy?
StridTNT: I have no idea, but even if we did... we can't afford switching..
fe3333au: KISS have benefit there to switch governments ... excellent news!!
StridTNT: Wait, what?
fe3333au: ?
StridTNT: eh... nevermind.
fe3333au: Oh I see ... actually made mistake cos KISS are not religious
fe3333au: or are they? ... Ag trait and ... religious(?)
StridTNT: I have no idea..
fe3333au: anyway not relivant at the moment
After Workers added production Up
StridTNT: Once we manage to give our production another boost (I'm hoping to about 11 pikemen or immortals every 4 turns)...
fe3333au: yes
Active Team
StridTNT: Anyway, incase your wondering... we still have a pretty active team..
fe3333au: I noticed :-D that's great
StridTNT: BCLG, Greekguy, Donsig, Donovan_Zoi, Lost_Civanatares, Theoden, and myself ... We have acouple of others that pop in from time to time..
fe3333au: I also chatted to Donsig so there are no hard feelings between us ... That's not a bad number
StridTNT: Donsig was just... frustrated..
fe3333au: I totally understand ... I like him
fe3333au: We have Chamnix, general_W, peter Grimes, Classical hero, gpno1fan as regulars and others popping in and lurking
Self Analysis
StridTNT: Well, I think that we are doing pretty good under the circumstances.
fe3333au: me too
StridTNT: It does seem that nothing EVER goes our way though.
fe3333au: well it can only improve then
StridTNT: I sure hope so... were running out of tatics to use ... I'm pulled out every MP trick I can think of with the galls... we've done some damage, but it's not enough to stop there GA production abilities..
fe3333au: only 3 more turns
Nut Diplomacy News ??
fe3333au: So any news from Nuts, are they talking to you?
StridTNT: They accidently sent us peace a turn ago, but we aren't really making any attempt to talk ... It was the usual... you know.. we sent them a messanger... they sent us his head back.
fe3333au: LOL ... At least you got the head ... in a Zombie mod I have played ... you don't even get the head back
Peace with KISS chance
StridTNT: What do you think your teams chance of making talking the galls into making peace is? ... I have a feeling your team really want to just sit over there and build and if we can get the galls out of the war..
fe3333au: with you? ... I honestly don't know ... when we have talked ... they have been hell bent on your extinction ... However, if it becomes difficult for them ... they may want peace ... but probably under their terms
StridTNT: haha.. I really doubt they want to pay the price for our extincition..
fe3333au: Who is your KISS contact person?
StridTNT: Honestly, MIA is in a very good poistion right now
fe3333au: Peace does have its benefits ... but we think war will sadly come for us very soon ... Who at KISS does he deal with?
StridTNT: Usually Whomp I think..
fe3333au: Whomp is taking back seat for a while ... Daghie is in charge
StridTNT: Hopefully this last battle will make them think twice ... If everything turns out decent with the boats.... they might decide to end the war..
fe3333au: yes I hoping that as well ... actually it really depends on the fleet ... x-post LOL
StridTNT: They wanted Semtax from us in there last peace offer ... We refused.. of course.
fe3333au: I would have been surprised if you had given it too them LOL ... lucky that is not on the coast
StridTNT: It's one of the top 5 cities in the world.. and it's abotu three tiles from our capital..
fe3333au: Yes something to be proud of... We are happy with Athens ... especially our sun dial LOL
Great Library
StridTNT: Yep, also if we do manage to get peace with the galls... we might start up the GL again ... We've discussed it from time to time, but a peace with the galls will take enough pressure off to make it reasonable.
fe3333au: May not be needed ... I suspect Education will be know by our neighbors soon
StridTNT: Doesn't it give you everything past education if it's already known by two civs? ... Or was that changed?
fe3333au: I thought that it is neutralised if two know it ... anyway we can get you most of those techs anyway ... so better to build another wonder ... however good strategy
StridTNT: There's quite a few wonders out there now ... If peace with the galls come... were start discussing it.
fe3333au: indeed
Not related Topics
StridTNT: Argh... I'm waiting for my Cagematch turn..
fe3333au: who you playing?
StridTNT: Daveshack, Donsig, and Regentman..
StridTNT: One admin, one nutter, and two TNT ;-)
fe3333au: nice
fe3333au: Glad Regentman has fun ... pity him and Ginger Ale can't play this ... but I guess like Rik ... they get an overall perspective
fe3333au: just editing the chat for posting on our thread ... making it easier to read by team ... Done and posted ... cya and thanks for front seat ... I need to sleep
StridTNT: Night
fe3333au: actually day LOL 1.30 ... cahtted with greekguy at 5.30am
Well at least they managed to repel the first wave.
I agree Gen_W ... you would think that they would defend their ONLY Harbour town .. or at least have told us, I'm sure we could have worked a contingency plan 
