Too many ideas?

[dh_epic]

I don't think pushing a consensus is important in the least. But you'll see that there's already a consensus on a few general ideas (until you get into the details).

The only thing that matters is there are a lot of people who want to see a killer new feature or two in Civ 4. Including the people who aren't on these forums, who didn't get hooked on Civ 3.

Those ideas can be inspired by talks on these forums. The details will not make it in, there's no way. But something like "more espionage" SHOULD be listened to, even if Firaxis does it in their own way (and I hope they do, since they're the ones most likely to think about user freedom, usability, and fun). They'd be foolish not to, when hardcore players and non-players alike could get into it just as a bullet point on the back of the box.

Box: "Civ 4, now with more espionage!"
Fanboy: "WHOA!!!!!!!!!!"

I'd like to think that for a presentation that dedicated a large segment to user cynicism, and reaching new audiences, they don't expect this to happen:

Box: "Civ 4, now with a new hat!"
Fanboy: "WHOA!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[warpstorm]

Okay, one thing I disgaree with is quantifying resources. Needless micromanagement. Sure it's realistic, but I don't care and I don't want it.

I also dissent on the very idea of provinces. Don't like it. Sorry, it wouldn't feel like civ to me if the emphasis was shifted from cities. (Not that it wouldn't make a good game, just not a Civ game).

So, in fact, I disagree with a quarter of your big categories (not the details, the whole category) that there is a 'consensus' on.

Soren, I'll buy you lunch at Andy Nelson's next week if you don't change these.

 

[Lennon]

I have posted some ideas here and there, one of the things I wish to see is merchant ships, so that the navy will finally get a proper role. But the one thing I really, really want to see is supply lines. I can cope with all my ideas being totally ignored as long as supply lines come into play. But that's just an industrial age warmonger like me, I don't expect the lot of you to agree wholeheartedly. Still wanna see 'em nevertheless.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85496

 

[dh_epic]

Fair enough. I gracefully retract the "consensus" stuff. But as you might see, those are some general enough categories that you could execute on half of them and people would be generally pleased.

Although as a side point, quantifiable resource resources is no worse than religion. "Sure it's more realistic, but I don't care and I don't want it."

 

[Diogenes183]

We cannot even get a consensus on what we have a consensus on!

Seriously though... I suppose you are right, there is no need for one.