Trade Discussions 1170AD

[Immortal]

Trade discussions 1170 AD

Military Alliances against persia by nearby nations:

Note: These will not be included in my turn instructions unless there is support for them.

France: Military Alliance AGAINST PERSIA for WM, TM, 11GPT
France: Military Alliance AGAINST PERSIA for Wines by itself
Greece: Military Alliance AGAINST PERSIA for WM, TM, Ivory, 1 Lump Sum Gold
Greece: Military Alliance AGAINST PERSIA for WM, TM, 34GPT (THIRTY FOUR GOLD PER TURN)

Trade Discussions Civ by Civ:

England 'It can't be done" -Queen Elizabeth
We have 3 turns remaining on a Right of Passage and an Alliance Against the Babylonians.
We have the capability to trade:
Iron (5 extra)
Dyes (3 extra)
Incense (4 Extra)
Spices (0 Extra)
Ivory (1 Extra)
Gems (5 Extra)
Unfortunately England will not trade with us, not much can be done with them at this time. It is adised we do not sign an alliance with them against Persia. Cancel the alliance against Bebylon.

France "Holy France Welcomes you, we Surrender!" -Joan Of Arc
We have 6 Turns Remaining in a Right of Passage Agreement with paris.
We Also have 16 Turns Remaining in a deal where we EXPORT Gems, IMPORT 24GPT
Possible trades:
Wines (0 Extra) We could recieve 32 GPT
Ivory (1 Extra) We could recieve 33 GPT
I advise against following any of these trade deals as the Wines are our only source and they will be required to maintain a happy populace. Also because these Ivories are required for other deals to possibly involve war.

Russia "Why am I dressed like a French Maid, Joan? Do you know?" -Catherine
We have 1 turn remaining in an EXPORTING of Gems, and Dyes
We have 3 turns remaining in an IMPORTING silks EXPORTING Horses
Possible Trades:
Iron (5 Extra) We could recieve 14 GPT
Wines (0 Extra) We could recieve 10 GPT
Furs (1 Extra) We could recieve 10 GPT
Incense (4 Extra) We could recieve 10 GPT
This has been taken to the people (INSERT LINK) to decide, except with the wines, which I recomend we keep. Renegotiate the silks deal (we need the source) renegotiate or find a new partner for the gems and dyes.

Babylon "Kish My Ashur" -Hammurabi
We are Currently at War, we will not negotiate with them at this time.

Persia "What, me Worry?" -Xerxes
We are Currently at war, we cannot negotiate with them.

Zululand "Uhh..." -Shaka
They have 1 city in the heart of Greek territory.
They have 1 worker in their capital which we could get for 29 Gold

Greece "When Italy went Hungary they Fried Turkey in Greece" -Alexander
We Currently have 16 turns left on a deal in which we EXPORT Dyes, Incense and IMPORT 45GPT
Possible deals:
Ivory (1 Extra)
This deal is not suggested as we will need the Ivory to declare war on Persia with a military alliance.

America "That's some Empire you've got there Fanatika" -Abe Lincoln
We currently have 3 Turns left in a right of pass age agreement which also EXPORTED alliance against babylonians and EXPORTED 13GPT
We have 16 Turns left on a 9GPT IMPORT
Possible Deals:
Wines (0 Extra) We could recieve 10GPT
Ivory (1 Extra) We could recieve 10GPT
Gems (5 Extra) We could recieve10 GPT
I suggest we sell the Gems to the Americans. Cancel the alliance against babylon.

Iroquois "Let us smoke the pipe of peace and friendship" -Hiawatha
We currently have a Right of Passage that can be renegotiated at any time.
We have 1 turn left on an 8GPT EXPORT
We have 4 turns left on a 3GPT IMPORT
Possble Deals:
Incense (4 Extra)
Gems (5 Extra)
neither deal is wanted by the Iroquois, no real trade deals at this time. We may consider gifting incense to keep relations friendly.

China "Do the backward fanatikans wish to trade?" -Chairman Mao
We currently have a EXPORTING furs deal where we IMPORT 14GPT to renegotiate at any time
We have 1 turn on a peace treaty in which we EXPORT spices and 45GPT
We have 4 turns in an IMPORTING of Ivory deal
Possible trades:
Dyes (3 Extra) We could recieve 21GPT
Make the Dyes deal. renegotiate the furs. I need citizen imput on the peace deal renegotiation, renegotiate the ivory deal.

India "Peaceful resistence IS NOT the way" -Ghandi
No Deals in effect
No possible deals.

 

[Immortal]

Summary:

Turn 0 -
These deals are to be decided by polls located in the Polls sub-forum
Renegotiate Furs deal with China to IMPORT 21GPT
Turn 1 -
Renegotiate Gems and Dyes With Russia, gift or sell to Russia or another civ.
Renegotiate peace with China (we are currently losing a large amount of gold in this current deal).
Turn 2 -
No deals
Turn 3 -
Renegotiate silks deal with Russia, they are our only source of silks unless overwhelming support for war with Russia withing next 20 terms.
End alliance againsy babs with England
End alliance against babs with America
Turn 4 -
Let the ivory import continue until China talks about it, it isnt costing anything right now.
Turn 5 -
no deals
Turn 6 -
No deals
Turn 7 -
No deals
Turn 8 -
No deals
Turn 9 -
No deals
Turn 10 -
No deals

 

[Feodor Ardent]

Some sort of deal is imperative down there. If the Chinese stay out of the Persian War, Persia can't really hurt us.

The English response worries me. They can provide a corridor for the Persians to reach our eastern frontier. With that kind of attitude, they may have just that in mind.

We could really use a envoy in English territory to see what is crawling across it. Would one of the governers have to volunteer to build us one?

Feodor
Deputy FA

 

[Immortal]

England is the most backward nation, if we got them to declare on Persia we risk having them be destroyed and persia be our new neighbours.

Chinese will recieve a deal, they are polite so we dont really have much to worry about right now.

 

[Chieftess]

Can we get anymore out from this deal?
France: Military Alliance AGAINST PERSIA for Wines by itself
(from France)

 

[donsig]

England won't trade because England is BROKE. We should be giving them some trinkets, especially military tradition!

As for Russia, we should not be buying their silks. We should be taking their silks.

 

[Immortal]

Other then a trade embargo (pfft, thats useful... ) nothing I can see.

 

[Immortal]

military tradition to them? thats something I would have to poll on.

I do want to close up the poll I posted and find out if we should let ALL the deals run out with them and begin preping for war against Russia

 

[Immortal]

With 57% support in the poll, no new trades will be considered with Russia.

 

[Immortal]

*bump* as it still apllies to next turnchat.