Trading Civs for G/Turn

[jtwood]

I have been playing Civ for Mac (1.29) for a few months now. I have also spent a goodly amount of time reading over the War Academy. I have come across a topic that is mentioned frequently at the Academy, and it is something that I am unable to do. Maybe you guys can help me out.

I have never been able to get a Civ to trade me G/turn for anything I offer them. Whenever I select any G/turn option, my advisor always tells me that they "would never accept such a deal." Let me qualify my comment by mentioning that I have yet to play past the Middle Ages.

So what am I missing? Do Civs on Mac trade G/turn? If so, do they not do it until after the Middle Ages? Can someone who has conducted a G/turn trade on Mac please describe one such transaction they have completed so I can see if I'm missing something?

Thanks,

JT

 

['Copter Pilot]

AI civs often pay G/turn for tech, luxuries or resources, but I've only seen it in the later game (after the middle ages). If you sell Nationalism, Replaceable Parts, Sanitation, or some other important tech you can get hundreds of gold per turn -- and then put your science rate to 100% while your AI opponents have no money left to pay for their own research. I don't know how well this works on emperor or deity, I only remember with certainty to have seen it on Regent and Monarch.

BTW they even offer it to you -- you select your tech you want to sell and ask what they'd like to offer. Sometimes they'll offer all their income per turn, if you ask for one gold more 'the'll never accept such a deal'.

 

[AlanH]

When you suggest a gpt figure and get "They'll never accept such a deal" it means one of two things:

1. The AI has no spare gpt. That is almost certainly the case until they have switched out of Despotism. They spend all their gpt on their own research. Later on you have to find opportunities to get gpt from them. They may have a lux or tech deal that's just expired leaving them with spare cash flow.

As 'Coper Pilot says, these deals are typically more readily available after the middle ages, but I've often done them before that. During the ancient age it's usually better to work the other way around anyway, and pay gpt for techs. You don't really need a lot of gold at this stage, as nasty babs come and pillage it from your cities, and nasty AI Civs will come around and extort it from you.

2. You may have trashed your reputation. If you ever break a 20 turn deal - peace, luxury trade .... before it has expired then all future gpt deals become very expensive, and they will seem impossible to negotiate. You can break a 20 turn deal inadvertently. A war or a barbarian may disrupt your trade route in mid-deal.