cripp7
Playin' Bored
Ok, waiting for Dwarf's input. Probably play tomorrow
Try-05: Ludicrous Speed!
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Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Sorry guys bit under weather, go for whatever you feel best will pick up in next couple of days.
cripp7
Playin' Bored
IHT-
to 0% for mass unit upgrades
SB3 hired 4 merchants 1 priest, GP due in 4
Trades
I hold off on civics switch until the next GP
Turn 241-
SB1 observatort>bank
SB3 cav>drydock>frigates
SB8 galleon>galleon
rest I put on frigates/galleons
Trade Toku 5gpt>marble
Research to SP going towards AL for infantry
Turn 242-
SB4 galleon>drydock
SB5 obs>bank
SB10 frorge>frigate
Turn 243-
Cyrus offers DR>RP+120
...uh no
SB1
bank
Turn 244-
SB1 bank>drydock
GE born in SB3 start a GA
Civics switch to FM/Theo
WvO trade
Turn 245-
I'm going to skip city-by-city
Toku trade Const>Lib,Drama,Music,Compass
Turn 248-
to 100% SP (3)
Turn 251-
SP > Corp > AL
Stopped on Turn 254, we have a pretty good fleet. Need 8 units to completely fill all the boats.
to 0% for mass unit upgradesSB3 hired 4 merchants 1 priest, GP due in 4
Trades
Spoiler :
I hold off on civics switch until the next GP
Turn 241-
SB1 observatort>bank
SB3 cav>drydock>frigates
SB8 galleon>galleon
rest I put on frigates/galleons
Trade Toku 5gpt>marble
Research to SP going towards AL for infantry
Turn 242-
SB4 galleon>drydock
SB5 obs>bank
SB10 frorge>frigate
Turn 243-
Cyrus offers DR>RP+120
...uh noSB1
bankTurn 244-
SB1 bank>drydock
GE born in SB3 start a GA
Spoiler :
Civics switch to FM/Theo
WvO trade
Spoiler :
Turn 245-
I'm going to skip city-by-city
Toku trade Const>Lib,Drama,Music,Compass
Turn 248-
to 100% SP (3)Turn 251-
SP > Corp > AL
Stopped on Turn 254, we have a pretty good fleet. Need 8 units to completely fill all the boats.
Spoiler fleet :
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Still no DOW gonna have to change that, Wash should be a rollover and offer staging grounds for others. After AL we should get Fasc and Comm, for Krem, Mt Rush GG. Could prob make use of State Property. Krem will help us rush buy units later.
Cant play until later in weekend if thats ok
Cant play until later in weekend if thats ok
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Well sorry about that
Our fleet can hit a couple of Washington's coastal cities and then cap him and move on towards WvO. Get some NavI-II galleons for fast transport of units back and forth. I agree with Comm, running SP will help our economy. Kremlin for cheaper buys, ludicrus speed from here on out!
Our fleet can hit a couple of Washington's coastal cities and then cap him and move on towards WvO. Get some NavI-II galleons for fast transport of units back and forth. I agree with Comm, running SP will help our economy. Kremlin for cheaper buys, ludicrus speed from here on out!Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Might be best if you take it this weekend will have time early nextg week to fit in a set. As cripp says Wash should capitulate easily, regroup then Wvo. One thing I noticed we have stopped assigning points to Cyrus. Him and MM arre going to be our only real opposition so I would assign most points to Cyrus and a enough to keep visibility on MM. I would leave Wvo and Wash.
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Try, go ahead take this round.
Did, couldn't post last night because my internet connection decided to be down
Report inc.Well, some good news and some bad news.
Summary points:
- IHT: minor micro stuff (mostly things look good), queue some buildings for
where needed, set up Levees, and start a Bank in SB6 (fastest build, not most useful bank) so SB2 can build Wall Street.
- IHT: re-negotiate some trades with AI for better gpt
- IHT: set all Espionage towards Cyrus
- built where needed
- built Jails to help recover our espionage deficit against Cyrus, and for war when we get around to going to war with him.
- Toku captured a barbarian village for us, I just razed it.
- We do not get Communism first, in fact two of the AI have it by the time Assembly line is finished so I went for Fascism first (we got the GG). We missed Kremlin, Cyrus built it.
- It takes a few turns + 6 turns of transit time to get in position for Washington, but only 2 turns to capitulate him.
One turn to land troops, one turn to conquer 3 cities in one go.
- Traded Toku Astro + Chem for Democracy + small cash on T263 (same turn we DoW'd Washington)
- BAD NEWS T263:
- Changed civics on T265 as we capture 3 cities and capitulate Washington (also the same turn we finish Communism):
- Played til end of Anarchy (start of T268).
Notes:
Still a HUGE deficit in espionage to Cyrus, but if we pause tech research for 4-5 turns with Espionage cranked up to 70-80% then we could catch up. We know he has a pretty huge military either way, including Rifles and Cavalry - our main advantage (and only at the moment) is we can build Infantry. To help that out, I have Artillery tentatively queued as the next tech. I don't think the loss in tech turns is worth it.
- Mt. Rush queued (but no turns in yet) in SB4.
- Troops and ships still hanging out near the captured American cities...
and on that side of things, I would actually consider just liberating the cities we captured and shipping our troops back across our fort-chain so we don't have to manage anything in Washington's territory. It's at least worth some discussion
- We have very very crappy defense, and now that we'd be pursuing a war against Cyrus+Mansa+WvO we need to be prepared in case one of them decides to try to land some troops against us. We already have a line of Frigates with Sentry promotion watching between our East coast and Cyrus/Mansa, but we would need to divert (or build more) frigates from our attack fleet to guard duty to be able to intercept and destroy a fleet before it got to us. Another problem there is that the AIs can built Ships of the Line which will eat our Frigates (I have Toku researching that tech, but it is still 8 turns away)
In that same vein, I started to replace some of our archers/axes defenders with Infantry (which helps our economy too, btw) and would suggest that we continue doing so.
- Tech path I would suggest would be Artillery -> Railroad -> Combustion -> Industrialism -> Electricity -> Fission
Summary points:
- IHT: minor micro stuff (mostly things look good), queue some buildings for
where needed, set up Levees, and start a Bank in SB6 (fastest build, not most useful bank) so SB2 can build Wall Street.- IHT: re-negotiate some trades with AI for better gpt
- IHT: set all Espionage towards Cyrus
- built
where needed- built Jails to help recover our espionage deficit against Cyrus, and for war
when we get around to going to war with him.- Toku captured a barbarian village for us, I just razed it.
- We do not get Communism first, in fact two of the AI have it by the time Assembly line is finished so I went for Fascism first (we got the GG). We missed Kremlin, Cyrus built it.
- It takes a few turns + 6 turns of transit time to get in position for Washington, but only 2 turns to capitulate him.
One turn to land troops, one turn to conquer 3 cities in one go.Spoiler :
- Traded Toku Astro + Chem for Democracy + small cash on T263 (same turn we DoW'd Washington)
- BAD NEWS T263:
Spoiler :
- Changed civics on T265 as we capture 3 cities and capitulate Washington (also the same turn we finish Communism):
Spoiler :
- Played til end of Anarchy (start of T268).
Notes:
Still a HUGE deficit in espionage to Cyrus, but if we pause tech research for 4-5 turns with Espionage cranked up to 70-80% then we could catch up. We know he has a pretty huge military either way, including Rifles and Cavalry - our main advantage (and only at the moment) is we can build Infantry. To help that out, I have Artillery tentatively queued as the next tech. I don't think the loss in tech turns is worth it.
- Mt. Rush queued (but no turns in yet) in SB4.
- Troops and ships still hanging out near the captured American cities...
and on that side of things, I would actually consider just liberating the cities we captured and shipping our troops back across our fort-chain so we don't have to manage anything in Washington's territory. It's at least worth some discussion
- We have very very crappy defense, and now that we'd be pursuing a war against Cyrus+Mansa+WvO we need to be prepared in case one of them decides to try to land some troops against us. We already have a line of Frigates with Sentry promotion watching between our East coast and Cyrus/Mansa, but we would need to divert (or build more) frigates from our attack fleet to guard duty to be able to intercept and destroy a fleet before it got to us. Another problem there is that the AIs can built Ships of the Line which will eat our Frigates (I have Toku researching that tech, but it is still 8 turns away)
In that same vein, I started to replace some of our archers/axes defenders with Infantry (which helps our economy too, btw) and would suggest that we continue doing so.
- Tech path I would suggest would be Artillery -> Railroad -> Combustion -> Industrialism -> Electricity -> Fission
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Yes running a few turns of
will help, also running spy specs in cities. Running 80% for 4-5 turns will see what he's researching, we'd have to run about 8 turns to get visibility. Getting bureaus would really helpNot really needed atm, with PS and jails should hold for awhile.
I would worry that liberating those cities Washington would break free. Sending the troops back east would take a lot of turns, where are we going to attack?- Troops and ships still hanging out near the captured American cities...
and on that side of things, I would actually consider just liberating the cities we captured and shipping our troops back across our fort-chain so we don't have to manage anything in Washington's territory. It's at least worth some discussion
We can get MS in 3 turns, I agree on our mainland defenses. A few rounds of drafting should help that, 2pop draft in higher pop cities. We can also upgrade our rifles to infs, but that costs
- Tech path I would suggest would be Artillery -> Railroad -> Combustion -> Industrialism -> Electricity -> Fission
I think hitting RR>Comb first for destroyers then
maybe drop some nukes on him, although I don't see it going that far(hopefully)Yeah, but in either case like I said I don't really see that research visibility adds enough value to be worth even the 4 turns of lost teching, let alone 8+ for additional visibility. Let's just get some tanks and smash his faceYes running a few turns of
Agreed, which is why I didn't spend turns on it prior to that
Attack Cyrus
And yeah, that was my concern too but I'm not sure exactly how that works. It's 50% pop AND land, right?No need for us to rush to MS, Toku will get it for us. We have at least 8 turns before going to war I'm sureWe can get MS in 3 turns, I agree on our mainland defenses. A few rounds of drafting should help that, 2pop draft in higher pop cities. We can also upgrade our rifles to infs, but that costs
Upgrades not really worth the cash I think, better to just build more units and run deficit research.Nukes would be nice to obliterate his stacks, when we find them. Mansa and WvO have wimpy armies, so I'm not worried about them.I think hitting RR>Comb first for destroyers then
cripp7
Playin' Bored
I guess Dwarf is UP now..
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Hmm maybe need to get a little creative to crack Cyrus then.
I think we should try to spy a little on Cyrus first before we jump into to see what we are getting ourselves into. We could probably do with some more airships for the job. Once we know what we are up against we can devise a plan.
One possibility would be to feign a small attack on WvO with hope of drawing Cyrus SOD there then strike his mainland.
Rather than a line of single frigates guarding the east coast I usually prefer to use airships to keep a check on the oceans and have a stack of ships ready to take care of what comes our way. If we can get destroyers first then these are a major advantage in this due to massive increased speed and power.
All in all mainly try to consolidate, upgrade troops, build more, and reserch Art => RR => Combustion.
We should try to make more use of our vassals by gifting them more tech in order to get them to develop periphery tech for us. e.g. Bio, Medicine etc whilst we concentrate on military.
I think we should try to spy a little on Cyrus first before we jump into to see what we are getting ourselves into. We could probably do with some more airships for the job. Once we know what we are up against we can devise a plan.
One possibility would be to feign a small attack on WvO with hope of drawing Cyrus SOD there then strike his mainland.
Rather than a line of single frigates guarding the east coast I usually prefer to use airships to keep a check on the oceans and have a stack of ships ready to take care of what comes our way. If we can get destroyers first then these are a major advantage in this due to massive increased speed and power.
All in all mainly try to consolidate, upgrade troops, build more, and reserch Art => RR => Combustion.
We should try to make more use of our vassals by gifting them more tech in order to get them to develop periphery tech for us. e.g. Bio, Medicine etc whilst we concentrate on military.
Yup, was thinking that would be good after MS, and I know DR isn't that useful but hey it's only 4 turns.
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Yes using airships are good, it's just tedious doing recon on each turn (need that auto-recon mod!) Everything else sounds good. Agree on gifting techs to vassals to get them to to tech things we don't have, also gets them to build modern units.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Sorry guys to do this again but I simply have too much to do in too little time, I'm off camping till middle of next week and just haven't had the time to get in any turns.
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Well have fun camping! I guess it's just you & me Try
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