TSG50 Game In Progress

- Did you do anything exciting with your UU's?

I did do something exciting with one of my hussars. I declared war on Alexander because he was a nuisance (He usually is, isn't he? Alexander the Great Pain in the ***). He stole a technology and grabbed some of my land with a citadel, all in the same turn :mad:. It probably will have cost me some extra turns, but I could not ignore these insults to my dignity. During the war my cannons became artillary and knights became hussars. The artillary can shoot at a city from outside the city's bombard range, but the city has to be in view. So I needed a spotter. I happened to place a hussar next to an artillary unit and noticed that the city became visible, because of the extra sight promotion of the hussar. So it seems artillary and hussars are a good combination to use from three tiles away. Both can not be hit by the city under siege. The hussar can be used to counter unit attacks from the city too.
 
Got early religion because of Desert Folklore and took Tithe, Pagodas, +1 food from shrines/temples, Religious Texts. Currently spreading with missionaries before the other civs can get a foothold.

I picked Inition Rites (+100 :c5gold: when each City first converts to this Religion) instead. It got me a lot of early money because of having so much desert faith to spread around the world. I wonder if I should have picked Tithe too. Probably in the end you will have gotten more money out of Tithe, but it seemed to me that Inition Rites has an early advantage.
 
There seems to be some uncertainty about which space is meant. I for one don’t get it. Could someone explain? Hammer?

Extra space refers to the open available land around you. Did you settle cities? When and/or where? Did you explore? Find a good Ancient Ruins? that kind of thing.

You dont have to give every detail, just the things you felt worth mentioning or significant regarding that space.
 
If my game froze what do I do? I've only won once on prince so I don't think I was too big of a threat to take the whole thing but I still don't want to violate the spirit of the thing.
 
Reload the game from the latest autosave and try to replay the turns to the bets of your ability to remember what you did. To make this less painful, you should set your game to make an autosave every turn, in other words, set autosave=1. After a crash, instead of posting it publicly, please PM a member of the staff to let them know. Thanks and good luck.
 
In the beginning was a city; Vienna, flower of the desert as she would come to be known. Around the area people had lived for longer back in time than their memories stretched, but around 4000BC a metropolis coalesced at the site of a river crossing in the fertile Hungarian Basin, watched over by the shifting sands of the Austrian Desert. More and more influence the city exerted on the land around it, until it began to have a genuine cultural influence over the little pockets of desert nomads and nascent farming lands, and had attracted a great number of both wise and productive people.

Shameless pandering to the city states in the surrounding area enabled some early friendships for the budding nation, even an alliance or two, all this without even the application of the vast power of the gold in the Austrians treasury, amassed from policing the river crossing. A couple of minor barbarian groups hiding in the woods offered our bored newly-budded military a chance to freshen up their skills and loot some plunder, as well as butter up the beleaguered minor settlements around them.

The Austrians expanded vigorously to the South-East and West, coming upon the lands of the Indian and English peoples, a nation in union, marching in step with the faint beginnings of the rat-a-tat martial drum in the back of their minds. The wave of settlement was driven forwards, right to the borders of the English nation, a woody, hilly land of not much use, the Austrians, being lucky fellows, managed to stumble upon rich diamond mines, and silk worms to the West however. The exploration of the world was not yet what it will be in the future, if the plans of a new and powerful naval presence, becomes a reality, but the respectful and friendly nation of the Japanese were duly greeted and provided with a Schwarzwald kirsche torte.

Seeing the aggressive English trying to expand their settlements into Austrian territory already reserved for lebensraum, we blocked the pass with archers, a tense stand-off ensued, culminating in the short "War Over Whether Rich Teas Are Better than Bourbons Succession." Unfortunately, the poor betrayed Austrian people to the West were set upon by the upstart barbarian Indians, a miniscule army attacking on Elephants would you believe it! The favoured general Charles Martell, began to set out on a long journey, in secret, to stab at the Indian usurpers heart, Delhi, as the brave spearmen and archers the nation had pain-stakingly trained in the newest techniques held the borders, and even began to push back.

The English were out-manouvered in their woodland home, the glorious Austrian Master-race aggressively exploited the forest around them, finding a source of Iron, which would soon be channelled as our secret weapon back West. Excitedly, the diplomats sued for an advanageous peace with the English, even as the Japanese began their own assault against them. The year 75 BC saw the beginning of the end of what was later known as "The War Over Who Left the Iron On" for the prosperous Austro-Hungarian Empire. They were about to sue for peace with the foolishly aggressive Indian people, and would soon begin some much needed downtime, with a coffee and a nice sausage or something.

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Notes: Further plans will be to head north to hit that whale lux with one last settler, then begin to marry off all the CSes around me, which I think should provide the space for a nice big power capital in Vienna (which of course has Petra) :)

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I will go for a domination-type strategy I think, trying to reduce the number of civs and CSes to make it simpler to bribe the last few, I just need to keep enough to absolutely out-weigh the AIs. I wouldn't be averse to Japan taking out Englands capital, allowing me to sneak round and cap him, before, resurrecting England in one city for another guaranteed vote.

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Meh. My least favorite type of game, stuck on an island with umteen aggressive ais. Knew I was getting DoWed early, teched archery and hbr, but I haven't really been able to get anything going. After India DoWed I threatened Mumbai but they had walls and I withdrew. Then Obanabawhateva jammed it. That might be a good thing for me though, let him fight with them and Elizabeth (oh yes the bleeptch dowed me too.) I have peace, for now, at Turn 100, and 4 decent but not great cities. I settled one step too far from the wheat, and the other cities are good but not great so I don't have great hopes for the game. Instead of desert folklore I took +2 faith from quarries, as I was late with getting my religion started and, well, had a lot of quarries.
 
Reload the game from the latest autosave and try to replay the turns to the bets of your ability to remember what you did. To make this less painful, you should set your game to make an autosave every turn, in other words, set autosave=1. After a crash, instead of posting it publicly, please PM a member of the staff to let them know. Thanks and good luck.

sorry and thank you :)
 
Please use this thread to discuss your goals for the game and your opening moves through about the first 60 to 80 turns.

- What did you do with the extra space?
- What were your initial priorities?
- What tech path did you follow?
- Were there any early wars and who started them?
- What Social Policies did you choose and why?
- Did you do anything exciting with your UU's?

What extra space?
England and India traded settling in bad locations right beside me.

Initially, i got the GL and used the free tech for Philosophy.
I followed my oft bad habit of not settling more cities.
I built NC in cap before settling any other cities.
I then built Petra (that was a primary goal from the beginning).
Got beaten to Hanging Gardens by India (only wasted one turn on it), so instead got the Oracle which i used to finish off Tradition.
Chichen Itza i got as well.

Tech path?
Beelined Currency, then Civil Service > Education as usual.
Weirdly enough, though my start was only one city for the longest time, i'm actually ahead of where i am sometimes at this point, and i haven't even finished any universities yet. I imagine if i'd gotten second (and other) cities out sooner instead of wonder spamming i'd be doing even better in tech, but anyway.

Wars?
England attacked me, and we are still at war as all she'll give me is white peace.
I can upgrade my archers to composite bows as of t111 though, so the war should take a turn for the better soon as i've only been defending.

Social policies. Took Tradition, used Oracle to finish it. Opened Commerce. Have another policy soon and it'll be either Patronage or Commerce, not sure yet.
Going to try to get out enough culture that i can actually finish Commerce and get at least a ways into Patronage, so i'll likely be ignoring Rationalism (and faster finishes) in favor of a slower finish but with better GPT/CS interaction. Only time will tell.

UUs comes later.

I've not had great luck with CS quests, but i managed to get Ragusa allied, and shortly afterwards i married them. Man i love CS marriage. Still seems OP to me.

I spread my religion to Florence which made them friends, but they have no lux?! They have Old Faithful, but that doesn't make up for no lux IMHO.
This makes them a rather crappy CS, so no real interest in marrying them or being allies even.

I really need to scout more and get some boats exploring to try to meet more civs as i've only met three.



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T100, I finally took down Delhi! Hooray! I attacked much earlier with what I thought was enough CB (5) but he had enough elephants and the +city defense pantheon that my initial attack failed. I was able to get some gold for 10 turns of peace, maneuvered around to the south side of the city and successfully took it down.

I also recently finished liberty and enhanced my religion (Tithe, Pagodas, Divine Inspiration, Itinerant Preachers). With Ghandi gone I should have plenty of room to expand in all directions.

I allied Zanzibar early and thus was swimming in happiness. Sold all the resources I could to England and Japan but they were so poor (<150 gold and negative gpt). 3 CS wanted the Pyramids so I built that after pumping out my 5 archers (popped a ruin for Archery, sweet!). I have been on/off allies with almost every CS around me...need more gold! Missed Stonehenge by 2 turns to England, but did get Great Library for commerce and then Petra right after. I am teching Civil Service now.

I am not sure if I will marry any CS...perhaps Tyre since they aren't providing much as an ally. I really hope I get to use some Hussars this game.
 
T1: Settled on Gold, going for Mining first.
T4: Ruin (Spearman).
T8: Ruin (Pottery).
T11: Ruin (95g); Ruin (20 Culture).
T12: SP: Liberty opened (forgot to do it manually on T11 -.-).
T13: Worker bought (also stupid to not have it done on T11 -.-).
T14: Worker stolen by barbs. Awesome start. Started to build a settler.
T31: My worker finally mine again. City #2 settled on the river jungle north to the mountain/banana (once again I fell for the Plains under the Jungle not allowing me to build Stone Works there).
T37: Scarcher died to Barbs.

What an awful game... should have stopped right there, but unfortunately I wasted a bit more time with it and finally tossed it some hours later.
 
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