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Game: Civ5 GOTM 69
Date submitted: 2013-10-02 14:30:15
Reference number: 29807
Your name: beto_java
Game status: Science Victory
Game date: 1968AD
Turns played: 388
Base score: 2329
Final score: 3024
Time played: 4:34:00
Submitted save: final_Maria I_0388 AD-1968.Civ5Save
Renamed file: beto_java_C506901.Civ5Save
 
Game: Civ5 GOTM 69
Date submitted: 2013-10-05 18:00:03
Your name: Attaturk
Game status: Science Victory
Game date: 1550AD
Turns played: 220
Base score: 1998
Final score: 4540
Time played: 3:30:00

9 cities. 6 built (3 - NC - 3), 3 captured (eradicated all of my neighbours before visiting another continent)

Religion: Desert Folklore - Tithe - 15% prod - +2 food - Cheaper Missionaries

BO: scout - scout - scout - settler - settler - granary - GL - NC - HG - ... Borodobir - (Bought uni) - Collosus
Petra: library - granary - spearman - petra - HS - Uni - Cheaper Tile Buying / Expansion Wonder ...
Inland: library (two chops) - granary - archer - ... Oracle

Tech: mining - pot - writing - calendar - masonry - ah - bw - (GL Philo) - CS - Edu - (bulb)Aesthetic - IW - Optics
- Physics - Machinery - Astro - ST - Radio - (Oxford: Plastics) - Appolo (bulb x 3?) - Three Parts (bulb) - Hubble (Rat Finisher) - bulb ...

Policy: Trad Full - Rat (Oracle) - Secularism - right three - Order - Finish Rat - get to tier 3 order

Accidentally bought too many missionaries and only had enough faith for one engineer and one scientist

Leaning Tower -> Engineer - > Hubble
Faith Engineer -> Hurried last part

Units:

Land army
Two scouts became Sarchers (tribute collection from nearby CSes)
Third scout blocked pascal from expanding east
Initial warrior was sitting on the hill near Shaka and was converting his settlers into productive workers of my empire (about 5)
Did not build any workers, bought the first one with trubute money, Shaka contributed 5, got one from Rome and nearby CS
build one more archer and a catapult

As soon as I get machinery and physics, my land army went to capture Shaka and Pascal capitals (the only cities they had)
A few turns after that, two galleas and five Naus went to capture Rome (lost one gallea during attack)

After that I got three Naus in the easter sea and two Naus (joined later by one more) in the western sea collecting tributes every 15 turns or so

Became Friends with Hiawatha and Pedro. Got one RA going around the time I hit industrial.

Bought one university, hard build all other universities. Everything else was bought

My top three cities were 29, 21, 20 population each. Each of my cities besides the landlocked one was getting a trade ship.
Ulundi was getting a caravan.

Spies were on CS duty and one in my capital
 

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Game: Civ5 GOTM 69
Date submitted: 2013-10-06 11:36:45
Reference number: 29837
Your name: Grimhand
Game status: Science Victory
Game date: 1949AD
Turns played: 369
Base score: 1582
Final score: 2167
Time played: 20:24:00
Submitted save: Maria I_0369 AD-1949.Civ5Save
Renamed file: Grimhand_C506901.Civ5Save


Back to Civ after a long hiatus, this was a good GOTM to start with. Lot of learnin' goin' on....:confused:

Not sure what all people might like to see here so I'll limit myself to the questions in the OP.

- How many cities did you build and how many did you decide to acquire?

Decided to keep it simple with "tall and wall" so only built a total of four cities. Ended up with three additional puppets from war reparations.

- How did you use religion or spying to your advantage?

Made of use of religion to improve growth rates and gold income. Also (hopefully) it made relations with Shaka and Caesar easier since they both succumbed to the glory of Whiskey-O! Managed to avoid open conflict with both of them. Spying basically kept me somewhat clued in as to what other civs were up to - I usually shared intrigues with the affected civs in order to sweeten relationships....and maybe to keep things stirred up a little.

- How did diplomacy go with your neighbors?

Went well. I pretty much clinched up when I found both Caesar and Shaka on my borders but I was able to maintain amicable relations. I maintained a strong military - maybe stronger than I needed - and gave Shaka some small bribes now and then.

- How did the difficulty level affect your game decisions?

Well, first off the level encouraged me to get back into the GOTM swing - it has been a long time. Secondly, it made me pretty sure I could swing the Great Library/National College route (built GL t45, NC t57, helped along by popping a ruin for Calendar on t22).

- Did the Diplomacy Victory condition exclusion change how you play a science game?

Since I haven't played a DV game yet - no. I was glad I didn't have to worry about accidentally getting a DV, though.
 
T214 SCIENCE VICTORY
Score = 4730 (HOF)


T111 Education opening actions

While a flood of Great Scientists ran us through the ages, the most interesting part was perhaps the World Congress. We proposed the World's Fair, it passed, and we built about 75% of its 2800 hammers, at which time it was completed. It gave us all three awards. That probably wasn't good for anything, but it helped us pass the time. :)

Two more cities were founded, when we had the happiness for them: in the jungle and on the island east. That was fortunate, because it turned out to have Aluminum.

Cargo Ships (the Caravan was disbaned after one tour) brought food to cities that needed them, and hammers to the new additions. Even so, our income grew to 400gpt. :mischief:

In the end, everything went faster than expected. We delayed the completion of Hubble and Porcelain Tower to allow for as many naturally born GS's as possible. More were coming, but they weren't needed. :)

Cities
1 Lisbon=41 (hill next to the starting location)
58 Porto=22 (desert peninsula, central hill to maximize desert tiles)
63 Braga=24 (on the river, with Cotton in third ring)
68 Coimbra=16 (tundra peninsula, on hill behind mountain)
73 Funchal=20 (coast west of Lisbon)
74 Leiria=20 (further west at the Whales)
85 Goa=16 (south between Maya and Rome at Sri Pada)
154 Vila Nova de Gaia=19 (jungle north of Rome)
159 Aveiro=15 (island east)

Policies
Spoiler :
12 Tradition
16 Liberty
23 Citizenship
36 Republic
54 Collective Rule
73 Aristocracy
93 Meritocracy
113 Representation
128 Rationalism (wonder)
128 Secularism (GW)
143 Humanism
154 Free Thought (GW)
168 ORDER, Hero of the People, Skyscrapers, Workers' Faculties
181 Young Pioneers
186 Party Leadership (GW)
198 Spaceflight Pioneers
203 Sovereignty (project)
206 Scientific Revolution
206 Socialist Realism (GW)
206 Five-Year Plan (GW)
213 Legalism


Religion
33 Fertility Rites
111 Judaism: Tithe, Religious Community
113 Swords to Plowshares, Religious Texts

Golden Age
47-56 Happiness (10)
113-127 Representation (15)
156-218 2x Great Artist (12), Taj Mahal (15), 2x Great Artist (12)

Spaceship
206 Apollo Program (Lisbon)
213 SS Cockpit (Braga), 3x SS Booster (Coimbra, Funchal, Leiria)
214 SS Statis Chamber (Lisbon), SS Engine (Porto)

Research Agreements
166-197 Brazil
167-198 Iroquois

Free techs
52 Philosophy (Great Library)
199 Satellites (Oxford University)
206 Advanced Ballistics (Rationalism tree)

Great Scientists
131 Lisbon
155 Lisbon
156 Lisbon (Leaning Tower of Pisa)
176 Porto
182 Lisbon
190 Braga
199 Leiria
205 Coimbra
206 Lisbon 1000f
207 Lisbon 1500f
210 2x Porto (Hubble Space Telescope)
212 Porto (Porcelain Tower)

Lisbon
Spoiler :
1 Founded
8 Monument
12 Scout
20 Granary
23 Worker (policy)
25 Shrine
30 Warrior
44 PYRAMIDS, 2 Workers (wonder) :goodjob:
52 GREAT LIBRARY :goodjob:
54 Settler (policy)
58 NATIONAL COLLEGE :king:
61 Settler
64 Settler
67 Settler
70 Settler
72 Settler
81 HANGING GARDENS :goodjob:
83 Workboat
85 Workboat
89 Aqueduct
92 Writers' Guild
96 Cargo Ship
99 Cargo Ship
103 Cargo Ship
111 Great Prophet (faith)
112 CHICHEN ITZA :goodjob:
113 Great Prophet (Liberty tree)
115 Great Writer
116 University :king:
119 GREAT LIGHTHOUSE
121 Workboat
123 Workshop
128 ORACLE :goodjob:
131 Great Scientist
133 NATIONAL EPIC
136 Artists' Guild
142 BOROBUDUR, 3 Missionaries (wonder)
145 Great Artist, Great Writer
149 IRONWORKS
155 Great Scientist
156 ALHAMBRA, Great Scientist (Leaning Tower of Pisa)
160 Public School :king:
161 Great Artist
162 Market
165 Bank
168 Musician's Guild
169 Temple
171 Great Writer
172 Factory
174 Amphitheater, Great Musician
176 Opera House
181 Great Artist
182 Stock Exchange, Great Scientist
186 Research Lab :king:
195 Workboat
196 Cargo Ship
199 OXFORD UNIVERSITY :goodjob:
200 Great Artist
203 Great Musician
205 GLOBE THEATRE, Great Writer
206 APOLLO PROGRAM :king:, Great Artist, Great Scientist 1000f
207 Great Scientist 1500f
209 Nuclear Plant 900g
210 Space Factory 700g
214 SS Stasis Chamber


Other wonders
Spoiler :
95 PETRA (Porto)
143 NOTRE DAME (Porto)
147 HAGIA SOPHIA (Braga)
156 LEANNG TOWER OF PISA (Leiria)
161 SISTINE CHAPEL (Funchal)
162 MACHU PICCHU (Coimbra)
179 TAJ MAHAL (Porto)
210 HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE (Porto)
212 PORCELAIN TOWER (Porto)


Technology
Spoiler :
11 Pottery
18 Mining; Bronze Working (ruins)
29 Masonry
40 Animal Husbandry
44 Writing :king:
45 Archery
50 Calendar
52 Philosophy (wonder)
54 The Wheel
57 Sailing
60 Optics
64 Mathematics
68 Construction
74 Currency
80 Engineering
82 Trapping
87 Drama and Poetry
89 Horseback Riding
96 Civil Service
102 Theology
111 Education :king:
114 Iron Working
117 Metal Casting
121 Compass
128 Astronomy
130 Guilds
133 Physics
135 Machinery
138 Chivalry
141 Printing Press
145 Banking
148 Acoustics
152 Economics
156 Architecture, Scientific Theory (GS) :king:
157 Steel
158 Gunpowder
162 Chemistry
164 Fertilizer (GS) :goodjob:
165 Electricity
167 Radio (GS)
169 Industrialization
171 Metallurgy
174 Rifling
178 Steam Power
181 Replaceable Parts (GS)
182 Plastics :king:
184 Military Science
188 Dynamite
191 Railroad :goodjob:
192 Navigation
193 Archaeology
195 Biology
197 Flight (RA Brazil)
198 Electronics (RA Iroquois), Ballistics (GS)
199 Radar, Rocketry (GS) :king:, Satellites (Oxford University) :goodjob:
202 Atomic Theory
204 Refrigeration
206 Nuclear Fission (GS), Advanced Ballistics (Rationalism tree)
207 Penicillin, Combustion (GS)
208 Computers (GS)
209 Ecology, Robotics (GS)
210 Nanotechnology (GS), Telecommunications (GS)
212 Mobile Tactics, Particle Physics (GS)
 
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Game: 	Civ5 GOTM 69
Date submitted: 	2013-10-10 14:35:21
Reference number: 	29851
Your name: 	dinanipedro
Game status: 	Science Victory
Game date: 	1842AD
Turns played: 	291
Base score: 	2249
Final score: 	3877
Time played: 	4:53:00
Submitted save: 	Maria I_0291 AD-1842.Civ5Save
Renamed file: 	dinanipedro_C506901.Civ5Save

hi gotm, first time submitting and first science victory in BNW :)

-did 6 cities of my own, after NC in cap with some liberty settlers and acquired the rest of the continent, rip shaka, pacal and augustus
-religion was a bit neglected, only got one GP; enough to buy 1GS though lategame. spies were used for culture and maritime cs's
-diplo wise I was much cooler with the guys on the other continent :mischief: shaka was blocked as soon as I met him, did not want his settlers wandering around that beautiful empty western part of the continent.. pacal was being a d, augustus usually ends up beaten on these lower diffs
-warlord is quite strange, i missed the oracle(one turn, pacal) just timed with the rationalism natural opener a bit late to leave it though anyway
-diplo vc off was negligible i guess

Spoiler :
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cuture ruin t1 opened trad, full liberty after that
rationalism full
freedom 3 tenets
tradition finish (might have got aristocracy earlier, though)

i really dont know how Singapore went around that alu tile, had to get pacal's third city chitzen iza down south and settled a GG on the unmined forest hill with 8 alu.

congrats on those sub 250 victories guys/girls, i seemed to be on route but err, somewhere after plastics the tech cost was still way too high :crazyeye:

p.s. is there somewhere post game to check the exact turns(builds and techs) or is pedant notes the way to do it?? i had edu t113 and astrot129, but after that who knows.. salute
 
Game: Civ5 GOTM 69p.s. is there somewhere post game to check the exact turns(builds and techs) or is pedant notes the way to do it?? i had edu t113 and astrot129, but after that who knows.. salute
I enter notes in a Word table during the game, keeping record of pretty much everything. Also, I save every turn (normal save, not auto).
 
Fells like I had way to many cities (puppets)

I was thinking the same thing whilst playing, like why are these cities costing my tech path instead of improving.. ended up annexing the ones with healthy pop and uni's then buying the schools and labs; unsure if this helped
 
Just discovered Game of the Month the other day. And must say that I'm very found of the concept, of what if seen of it so far. To share and discuss the same games must help does who want improving their games.

So instead of jumping stright to the newest challange I went back abit first to try out several of the GotM for this expansion. Had never tried Warlord before this so I didnt know quite what to expect, other then beeing able to steamrole major.

Had a good run till halfway through I think. Had a 4 city NC by turn 93 and was working myway through the tech-tree.
Took out Rome with my first Frigate in place - but I didnt know(!) that ships could take cities(!) so my fleet where parked outside waiting for some soldiers to march down.. Also this game was the first time ever I demanded tribute from the CS, will be doing that more.

I decided to then take it easy, focusing on my 4 originale cities + Rome. And on building almost all of the wonders except the war-related ones.

My religion went crazy, with missionaries and GP from wonders it was suddenly all over the island. Where pumping out 100+ faith pretty early, this helped me bunk up enough GS and GE for bubling and building in the end. But somewhere I lost track of things and the time passed by. I was pretty sure that under 300 turns would go easy. Along the way I at some point found my capital having 7 unemployed citizens.. and in the end I had misplaced a couple of GS so I didnt see them till the end. Ended up building the spaceship parts with just one tech left.. went major sloppy at the end. Victory at turn 317 is nothing to write home about. Considering playing the last 25 turns or so one more time to see how much I loosed there in the end.. Found it hard to stay focused after turn 100 or so...

Also got a question, and I might as well ask here: when you save up for bubling GS after rocketry(?), do you bubl when your researching something taking 6 turns+ or do you just use them all at the same time??

Also made a totally powerhouse of a city out in the desert to the east. With Petra and Desert Folklore it quick became my favorite city. Built Ironworks there and sent in food from all other cities.
 
Welcome to CivFanatics and GOTM. :wavey:

Best of luck in learning to play and hope to see more participation from you in future. :thumbsup:
 
Best of luck in learning to play and hope to see more participation from you in future. :thumbsup:

Not so much learing as improving. It was kind of strange going from last game diety to warlord. I will be joining the latest one.
 
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