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Unexpected attitude hit... Update: with save file

Discussion in 'Civ3 - General Discussions' started by Bartleby, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    I've attached the minimap for sumeria - doesn't tell whether they do have contact with anyone on the mainland - they may have had contact, but they can't trade maps.

     
  2. Bartleby

    Bartleby Remembers laughter

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    On a related note, I looked over the save with CRpViewer, none of the other civs' map views suggest they might have met Sumeria.
     
  3. ainwood

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    I can probably check more robustly - might do that tonight if I feel like procrastinating for a while!
     
  4. AutomatedTeller

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    for what it's worth, I can abandon any city filled with celts and sumeria doesn't care.

    abandon a roman or an arabian city (which are relatively nearby) and they are unhappy.

    i wonder... did carthage have mapmaking when they bit the dust? Is it at all possible that they met the sumerians - the AI could have sent a galley across to the sumerians, and maybe once that contact is made, the citizens still send news of bad deeds around until they are completely subsumed?
     
  5. AutomatedTeller

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    hmm.. you get an attitude hit for disbanding slaves (killing them) - maybe you get a hit for abandoning a city with foreign workers, because they are all dead. Anyone know?
     
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  7. Bartleby

    Bartleby Remembers laughter

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    Here are some scenarios that I played out:

    a) Raze Cumae--Sumerians are cautious
    Abandon Aden (100% Arabic)--they're annoyed
    Abandon Ancyra (100% Byzantine)--they're furious

    b)Abandon Aden and Ancyra--cautious
    Raze Cumae--cautious
    Abandon Novgorod (100% Russian)--Annoyed
    Abandon Carthago Novo (100% Carthaginian)--Furious

    c)Give Sumerians contact with Alex & Gandhi
    Raze Cumae--Everyone's polite
    Abandon two 100% foreign cities--Sumerians Furious, others polite.

    d)Capture Cumae--cautious
    Abandon it--annoyed
     
  8. Bartleby

    Bartleby Remembers laughter

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    I have noticed that the abandoned towns must be 100% foreign to upset Gilgamesh. He is not bothered if you abandon the larger Celtic towns with a majority of Celtic citizens, but if you abandon Eboracum (pop 1 [Celtic]), it does upset him.

    I also tried abandoning all my slaves and foreign settlers (after razing Cumae) and he was still cautious.

    And I tried giving contacts with the Romans to all parties, razed Cumae and then abandoned some towns. Only Gilgamesh became furious.
     
  9. AutomatedTeller

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    well, that may be because you are in sumeria's shunned government, so their attitude will be worse than the others.

    but the big drop is kind of mysterious, anyway...
     

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