Unit Upgrades

[Telovne]

Where can I find upgrade path for each type of unit.
ie. Archers upgrade to Crossbowmen or whatever.

I saw someone mention Cavalry upgrade to Gunships which suprised me.

1) Is there a full list of upgrades available? Or does it change dramatically depending on your techs?
2) Is there a list of best defensive unit v attacking unit & vise-versa. Around approx. the same era.
ie. My Grenadiers were easily taken apart by Cavalry, what would have been better? Pikemen seem a bit out of date, would they still have worked better as Cavary are mounted units?
(I realise that Modern Armour would work great v a Warrior ;oP).

 

[Proteus]

You can find informations about what type of unit can be upgraded into what other type within the civilopedia.
Some kind of downloadable or printed official unit upgrade tree AFAIK doesn´t exist at the moment (but of course can be made out of the informations within the civilopedia).

Oh and yes, cavalry upgrades to gunships. Maybe the developers where inspired there by a certain movie about the vietnam war

 

[Mmmm Butter]

This sounds like it'd make a useful little chart, in the same format as the tech tree. That way, you could upgrade units with a strategy the same way you'd go through the tech tree. For instance, most people use archers/longbowmen for city defense, so they're upgraded with city defender. But longbowmen only upgrade to riflemen, and riflemen to infantry, whereas grenadiers upgrade to infantry OR machinegunners. So there's no way to upgrade those city defender longbowmen to city defender machineguns.

I'm going to put together a chart.

 

[Sim-Liver]

If you have not bought the strategy guide book by brady games it has just such a chart in it showing the paths on page 134 and 135.

I have thought about putting a copy up but there might be consequences to that so if some one reading this has a better idea...

 

[Telovne]

You can find informations about what type of unit can be upgraded into what other type within the civilopedia.
Some kind of downloadable or printed official unit upgrade tree AFAIK doesn´t exist at the moment (but of course can be made out of the informations within the civilopedia).

Oh and yes, cavalry upgrades to gunships. Maybe the developers where inspired there by a certain movie about the vietnam war

Thanks Proteus, I had never much bothered with the Civilopedia, it seemed clumsy to browse through. I am pleased to find it gives just the info. I was looking for.

Sim-Liver, thanks for replying but the info on page 134-135 of my strategy guide shows unit promotion not unit upgrade.

 

[Mmmm Butter]

Ah, nevermind about the chart. It'd be illegible.

There's not much to strategize anyway, except for that longbow/crossbow thing. From now on I'll probably upgrade a lot of those city defense archers into crossbows instead of longbows, that way they can go to machineguns eventually.

Too bad there isn't some kind of list for the costs though, that'd be good.

 

[ZippyRiver]

So there's no way to upgrade those city defender longbowmen to city defender machineguns.

Depends. If you got those longbows by upgrading archers then you blew the chance. Achers DO upgrade to machine guns. It ain't cheap, and keeping a load of archers around that long has it's own challanges, but a garrison-3 machine gun is a fun unit to look at.

As for your calvary problems, Lot of units can get the formation promotion (+VS mounted) after combat 2. If i know I am going to be facing mounted troops, I want a pack or two of units that can deal with them. Preferably cavs with formation. That way I can chase thouse buggers down as well. I hate seeing a badly damaged AI unit manage an escape.

 

[Sim-Liver]

Oooops! Me Bad... I was confused with a blonde moment. Your right there is nothing available online or in written form YET! further more, I have wondered about the guide it seems lacking in certain areas compared to the Civ 3 version. Oh well maybe soon now that it has been mentioned here in the forums.

 

[ybbor]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=135395

 

[GeorgeOP]

There is also a very good Civpedia Mod that will actually have all of the upgrades in it. I can't open more than one browser on my work computer, but I just downloaded it a couple of days ago. It also has the one chart upgrade screen to look over. I suggest everone gets it, as you can then actually use the Civpedia.

 

[PoU2]

I can build pikemen or samurai units which can have City Raider promotion. So I produce those, get them City Raider and then upgrade them to grenadier WITH City Raider. Isn't that too sweet???

 

[Mmmm Butter]

Thanks Ybbor and George.

That chart is exactly what I was thinking, and started to make one in ms paint exactly the same way except I went left-to-right. Once I got to units that upgrade to grenadiers and/or riflemen, it got pretty messy. That's great though, thanks.

And I'll check for that mod, that'd be a useful addition. Once I finish GOTM2.