Unit: USS Constitution (7th Oct, 2004)

I know that this is a dead thread - heck - I put in the last post nearly a year ago. As I recently began playing and moding C3C again, I thought I would share my civilopedia entry here as an incentive for people to use this unit. To use it, just copy it wholesale here in this post and paste it in your C3C civilopedia folder ( or PTW etc.).

Here it is:

#PRTO_HeavyFrigate
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^The [HeavyFrigate] is a frigate that was specifically designed to take on vessels of a larger size. Using speed, superior fire power and
heavier construction techniques, the vessel was actually strong enough to take on lesser ships-of-the-line under certain conditions.
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^A coastal city needs both $<LINK<iron=GOOD_Iron> and $LINK<saltpeter=GOOD_Saltpeter> in its
$LINK<Strategic Resource=GCON_ResourcesS> box to build Heavy Frigates.
#DESC_PRTO_HeavyFrigate
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^The Heavy Frigate was first built by the fledgling American Navy in order to combat the Mediterrainian pirates.
Also refered to as 44-gunners, the designers, Joshua Humphries and Josiah Fox, were determined to build a ship that would
prove to be an overmatch to foreign nation vessels of the same class. The idea was sound, as the 44s proved themselves time and
again throughout the many years following their launch dates in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The idea of Heavy Frigates
quickly crossed national boundaries, as friendly nations began taking the lines from the vessel and adopted them to their own use.

Enjoy!

PS - The 44 is NOT a replacement for a Man-o-War. The Man-o-War was actually used to describe the large armed vessels of earlier centuries, namely in the 1600s. By the time of the Georgian Navy (roughly 1725 to 1840), ships of large size (in most National Navies) were refered to as Ships of the Line. These "wooden walls" were what the British used to become masters of the ocean by 1805. The Man-o-War looked nothing like a Ship-o-the-Line, although the one that is labeled as such in the game looks like a Ship-o-the-Line {SOTL}.

Even 44s could not take on the majority of these monsters, some of which had upwards of a 120 guns and were two, nearly three times the size of Heavy Frigates. The SOTL also was capable of Heavy bombardment and I give mine both Blitz and lethal sea in my editor. Anyone who has read about Trafalger or the Nile would quickly understand why I do this. :D
 
Hey, aaglo!

Kudos on a great unit but I feel I must point out a serious hours long problem (much of it due to my ignorance) I had in getting it to work. I attempted the HeavyFrigate version. I used the Kraken tutorial to get it in to My Mod (after fumbling like the 3 stooges for about a day) and debugged into a test run.

Each time I tried to shift f1 the new unit on to the map, my message told me that it could not find the .ini file. Boy was I flustered! Here is what I found out:

I suspect that the ini file for the Heavy Frigate is corrupted! I believe I lucked out to correct it, although the way that I fixed it seems to back up my suspicion. Unless there is a way to put an ini into the wrong place inside of a folder, I can't think of any other explanation. This is what I did:

I came back here and downloaded the "connie". I then put a copy of the connie ini into my Heavy Frigate folder. I opened the suspected corrupt file and the connie ini file and changed all of the connie graphics references to HeavyFrigate (I didn't touch the wav files). After dumping the old ini, I changed the name of the connie ini to HeavyFigate and voi la - as soon as I bugged her up, she suddenly ran as smooth as silk.

As I did not change anything but what I've described, I don't know what else to think. If you have a way of testing this theory, perhaps you can prove me wrong or right. I am, I admit, curious but I'm also not experienced enough to get into the deep workings of individual files where the whys and why nots are concerned. :( On to other, upbeat things. :)

You REALLY did an awesome job on this unit! You see, I only recently figured out how to get a new unit to actually work inside of the game, and your Heavy Frigate was my first success. I pounded the problem over a year ago and gave up in ignorant frustration, deleting the whole game and not even reloading or playing it until about a week ago.

The hiatus seemed to pay off, as I came back to it understanding a lot more about computer games and how they work than I could have imagined a year ago( I didn't stop gaming, just Civing). I have decided to stay with Civ3C now that I understand moding better because I don't believe that the complexity of the game merited introducing a Civ4 so quickly - IMHO, C3c and its concepts did not get enough time before it was shuffled aside. Of course, this is probably not the case for those who started playing C3 on day one, but that's how I feel. Anyhoo, back to the the requisite kow-towing.:worship:

I can see just by this unit that you are certainly worthy of every award you get. I believe that I will hit your library as soon as I get my Panther and Sturm Tiger loaded (success in this came last night - the Sturm Tiger was a B#@%H! Panther was easy.). All this and the continued feeling of awe that I'm experiencing over how good your unit is aside, I have only one minor/teensey-weensey request that will enhance the accuracy of this unit immensely. You may ignor it, of course, but it is a sound idea. I present it from my historical knowledge base point of view, which is extensive.

I think you should rename connie to be a "44 Gunner" - 44 for short. There were three classes of Frigate built by the US Navy at the turn of the 18th century - 44s (Constitution, President and United States), 38s ( Congress and Constellation) and a 36 (Chesapeake). The 44s were lined out (plans taken down) by both the French AND the British, so the vessel is NOT civ specific.

(In an aside, the British offered to return the President to Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the 19th century [they having captured it in 1814 after a bloody fight that nearly destroyed two of their frigates and heavily damaged another - a fight started after Pres had broken her rudder when a squall temporarily ran her aground!] but Teddy turned them down because he did not want to take back a ship that had lost! The British scrapped it. :( - real anal, Teddy...)

I know that this would seem to make the Heavy Frigate unnecessary but - NOOO - because you could rename the Heavy Frigate a "38 Gunner" (38 for short) as there was not very much difference in the actual appearance of the vessels.

A 38 was still considered a Heavy Frigate because the average Frigate at that time was 24 to 32 guns, which means that you would not actually have to change the name of Heavy Frigate - No one would see a difference except in the game/editor files for speed, offense and defense. (The 44s hit harder and were mucho fast for what they were - the President was the fastest of all 6 of the first frigates.)

I spent alot of time studying the Georgian, early American and European Navies to learn this stuff and I have never come across a historical reference of the era that called "Old Ironsides" the connie - this term is associated with the USS Constellation in its Aircraft Carrier form, if memory serves me correctly. Hence the reason that I make this humble request.:D

All that aside, I want to say "Great Job" :thumbsup: again and assure you that I shall be paying much closer attention to your library page. Congrats on a unit well done! ;) :) :D

EStrongblade
 
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