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[Elhoim]

What Spearthrower said.

 

[Barak]

Of course not - there was never a nation called "Iberia". There was, and is of course, a nation called Britain. Reflecting the unity of that would be more "politically correct".

When Edward II conquored most of Scotland in the early 14th century, he was still leading the troops as the English King. If we wish to call the nation Britain, they should start with ALL of the British Isles. As they do not (ireland is Celtish is it not, and Inverness may not be a city depending what teh viking do), teh civ better represents England as it was seen as through the tudors.

 

[Phallus]

If we wish to call the nation Britain, they should start with ALL of the British Isles.

Apart from Ireland they do, and let's not forget that the majority of Ireland is not part of Great Britain. There's a difference between Britain and the British Isles, you know.

As they do not (ireland is Celtish is it not, and Inverness may not be a city depending what teh

Inverness is in the spawn area for Britain regardless of whether the Vikings sack it.

teh civ better represents England as it was seen as through the tudors.

You might want to remember that Tudor is a Welsh surname, and Henry VII was born in Wales.

 

[Sovietof17]

Got a babylonian UHV last night. It would be cool if later versions had Babylon building the Hanging Gardens as opposed to China who seems to build it 100% of the time.

 

[SilverKnight]

Some things of note as America (again):

• Marsh near Washington? Any reason for this?
• Great People appearances don't show up in the message log; the icon flashes, but no name or city, and the message is blank.
• Cotton still doesn't show up in the city screen.
• Love the new civics options, miss the "Cancel" button, honestly. Easy to compare gpt costs.
• Can the southern United States have at least one more source of cotton? During the American Civil War, the Confederacy relied on the following:
  "The South, in addition to much subsistence agriculture, depended upon large-scale production of export crops, primarily cotton and (to a lesser extent) tobacco, raised by slaves. The slaveowning plantations—which comprised less than a third of the white population—were export-dependent. Plantation owners typically accepted the theory that protective tariffs on iron and textiles hurt them, though they bought very little iron and only the cheapest cloth for the slaves. They believed cotton was in such heavy demand that Britain and France had no choice but to buy expensive southern cotton."
• Africa could use MANY more gems, maybe some gold and silver; more of a battle ground for European powers; as it is, by my spawn, I was able to pop a city in South Africa and capture another one there to control half of the continent's luxuries. A modern era battle for control of these precious luxuries would be great, rather than Europe just sitting on their South American possessions.

So far so good! Stability seems much more realistic; civs tend to be somewhere between Shaky and Very Solid, and collapse after taking a great deal of stress in a short period. The Aztecs actually seemed MORE powerful in this game, with a consistently larger army fully upgraded to Grenadiers and Riflemen by the time of their invasion around the 1870s. But the French were taking pieces of Mali, the Middle East was a mess of spawning and collapsing civs, India and China were gone for most of the game. It was fun to see.

SilverKnight

 

[Tom Veil]

I agree with you about the swamp near Washington. That area is the Southern Piedmont, which should be grassy hills.