Video Card Q+A

sav said:
Anyone know if this means it will work or not?

Video RAM: Required - 32 MB , You have - 64 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - No

I don't have a flash graphics card, just whatever it was that came with the computer - which runs 2.4ghz, 500meg ram btw.
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No T&L, probably not, or at least not without some wacky issues. I know sometimes people can push specs, but I've seen soooo many problems with games made in the past two years or so for anyone without a video card that has T&L. Not just not running the best graphics, but having the graphics be so messed up that gameplay is severely hindered, not to mention the aesthetic mess entailed.

Luckily Civ 4 doesn't require much, a $40 video card will do quite nicely.
 
Wow this is a great thread...

My IBM Thinkpad (A21p) graphic card is:

ATI Rage Mobility 128 Ver. 4.00

I did the "srstest" but failed the "T&L"

any insight as to whether i'll be able to run it?
 
I just got a 64MB GEForce4 installed. :D It's a used card I got from my uncle.

And I just did a test on www.srtest.com and I passed the min requirement test.

Huzzah! :D
 
please mods, could we get a vid card sticky?
 
@Sub - that card should do great!

@sav - what is your card/chipset? Why $100 for Civ4?

@agoodfella - I don't see your card on the list, but the other Rage cards only have DirectX6, which is bad.

T+L may not be absolutely necessary, but I'm not sure right now.

Is there a Pirates player out there with an older video card w/o T+L?
 
sav said:
Hmm. I don't think I'll be buying Civ 4 then... $100 is a lot to pay for a game that probably won't work. And a $40 video card in the US is an $80 video card over here... nope. I think I'll stick with Civ3.
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who is charging that $100? Can't you order from the US or when it comes do you get taxed up the ying-yang or something...living in the US I dont understand the mechanics involved in ordering in other countries.
 
doronron said:
I can run Pirates on an Intel 852/855 GM chipset. Even for the Intel Extreme, that's a bit outdated. Pirates had to run on highest detail, but there was no slowdown or lag, and very few graphic artifacts.
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That is VERY interesting, as this chipset does NOT have T+L! (see here)

That confirms that T+L is not absolutely necessary with the Gambryo engine!
 
Well, there is some risk that Civ4 WILL need T+L.

However, even a LoTR game allowed for software emulation. Hopefully an exception will be allowed in Civ4 also.
 
Can anyone help? I have an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ with 2.1 GHz CPU, 448 MB RAM, and something called a VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP graphics card (I have DirectX 9.0c, so I know it supports it). Any other info I forgot?

Does anyone think I can or cannot run CivIV? I can play Half-Life 2 with slightly below average settings, still looks ok, though. I can play Halo, but everything is all gray, blocky, and flickering.
 
elderotter said:
who is charging that $100? Can't you order from the US or when it comes do you get taxed up the ying-yang or something...living in the US I dont understand the mechanics involved in ordering in other countries.
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It'll be $100NZ retail. I tried ordering through the website linked to from Civfanatics, they never sent me a confirmation email nor charged my credit card, and haven't responded to my follow emails asking what's going on. So I'll just wait till it's in the shops...

Ordering from overseas will be just as expensive, with the added risk of, well, ordering from overseas... you never quite know what's going to happen...

Minimum: 32 MB 3D Video Card with Hardware Transform & Lighting
You Have: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller (Intel(R) 82845G/GL Chip)

It's a 64meg chip, so that should be ok... but this T+L thing is pretty annoying. I don't want flash graphics, I just want a good game!
 
sav said:
It'll be $100NZ retail. I tried ordering through the website linked to from Civfanatics, they never sent me a confirmation email nor charged my credit card, and haven't responded to my follow emails asking what's going on. So I'll just wait till it's in the shops...

Ordering from overseas will be just as expensive, with the added risk of, well, ordering from overseas... you never quite know what's going to happen...

Minimum: 32 MB 3D Video Card with Hardware Transform & Lighting
You Have: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller (Intel(R) 82845G/GL Chip)

It's a 64meg chip, so that should be ok... but this T+L thing is pretty annoying. I don't want flash graphics, I just want a good game!
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Sav, I have this same graphics controller in my cpu and I'm wondering the same thing: Will it work? Or do I need a new graphics card? I was looking into a new one but I found that my cpu does not have AGP slots, only PCI :sad:
Hopefully i can find a PCI card for around 50 bucks that can run Civ IV if the gosh darn intel graphics don't cut it, which I kind of doubt they will. And then I'll be spending 100 bucks just on one game (I've been trying to save up some money and its been working until now :D )
 
alamo said:
That is VERY interesting, as this chipset does NOT have T+L! (see here)

That confirms that T+L is not absolutely necessary with the Gambryo engine!
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This does seem to indicate that hardware T&L isn't an absolute must.

I think people who don't have a hardware T&L graphics card need to consider the power of their cpu. If you have a cpu that just meets the minimum requirements then you will probably not be able to run this game. However, if you have a fairly good cpu (say 2GHz plus as a guess) then it may be able to cope with the added T&L calculations, though the game would seem to play a lot slower than a 2GHz cpu with hardware T&L. You would probably also need at least 512MB of RAM in this case.

I imagine that the majority of recent laptops would fall into the latter category.

Of course, if the civ4 installer refuses to run the game without hardware T&L being present then this entire discussion will be pointless.
 
agoodfella said:
Wow this is a great thread...

My IBM Thinkpad (A21p) graphic card is:

ATI Rage Mobility 128 Ver. 4.00

I did the "srstest" but failed the "T&L"

any insight as to whether i'll be able to run it?
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Wow, you know that driverheaven.net is hosting a contest form ATI to see who has the oldest graphics card. the Rage is right up there with the first cards ever. If you win they will give you a bran new X1080.
 
IroquoisPlisken said:
Can anyone help? I have an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ with 2.1 GHz CPU, 448 MB RAM, and something called a VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP graphics card (I have DirectX 9.0c, so I know it supports it). Any other info I forgot?

Does anyone think I can or cannot run CivIV? I can play Half-Life 2 with slightly below average settings, still looks ok, though. I can play Halo, but everything is all gray, blocky, and flickering.
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No idea to be honest.

It's not because you have directX9.0c installed the cards supports it. A couple of months ago I had to reinstall my back-up card (GeForce1) and had DirectX9 too, although that card only supports directX7? (No sure on that one).

Never, ever, ever buy integrated graphic cards...never. Buy them second hand if you can't really afford them (as I do). I bought a 3 month old 9800PRO for about 60% of new price.
 
Ok, my system is 2.2 gigs, 768 ram no t+l and a 64 mb integrated intel card that meets evertything except t+l. Would someone tell me how they think civ4 will run on my computer. I mean, it has good harddrive (2.2) and 768 ram, would that be good enough if t+l isn't required but can be ran on ram or something.
 
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